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From: Ubiquitous <weberm@*******.net>
Subject: Re: Commercials & global "culture"
Date: Sun, 26 May 1996 21:28:32 -0400 (EDT)
At 06:12 PM 5/26/96 -0500, ScatCat wrote:
>At 04:42 PM 5/26/96 -0400, Ubiquitous wrote:

>>It's hardly my fault that you have problems with your logical and abstract
>>thinking.
>
>Heaven forbid that I should speak logically and end up over your head. It
>isn't hard to do, obviously, as everything I stated was quite clear and in
>pretty small words. There wasn't anything abstracted in that post at all.

Apparently, you need to have these things spelled out to you in monosyllabic
words. I guess I was vastly overestimating your facilitator's ability to
read when I wrote that. You have an odd way of stating claims and then never
being able to cite evidence to back them up, other than pointless hypothetical
exercises in what you think would happen, only to later back peddle with no
explanation. You figure out how the analogy between this and a bad check
writer works; I have better things to do than play tutor with you.

>>So now you're claiming that you never said that any runner who
>>runs against a corp. is going to be hunted down? Whatever.
>
>Can't handle that thread so you go back to my original reply. I still
>wholeheartedly believe that if the runners are made known to the corp (in
>any way) this has a strong possibility of happening, depending on
>circumstances within the corp and how things went down on the run.

No, you originally stated numerous times that ANY runner who went against a
corporation would get squashed like a bug. Does this ring any bells?

"Now, on why it is economically feasible to do everything within the corp's
means (and fitting the situation) if you are the subject of a terrorist act
[...]: [Followed by ways to get rid of runners]"

Now you're suddenly claiming that's not what you meant all along? That
doesn't wash, and I'm calling you on it.

>If the runners aren't known to the corp in any way, then it won't happen,
>because it can't (simple logic). But the latter will be exceedingly rare due
>to current security technologies.

Gee, that's funny, you've been trying to make the point that the corp
somehow knows every intimate detail about the runners, be it by use of Mind
Probe spells on not very credible witnesses or by highly trained sleeper
agents scattered throughout the metroplexes of the world, etc. Corporations
do not have the resources to waste on such things.

SR2 p197 (On opposition)

"Often, Corporate opposition is actually an individual who runs a piece
of the organization, rather than the whole show. If a team defeats that
individual, the larger organization will usually throw the guy to the
wolves. _Organizations_rarely_try_to_exact_revenge,_because_revenge
shows_no_gain_on_a_balance_sheet." [Emphasis mine]

There is also a paragraph further down the page you may wish to read which
describes this further.

>I apologize to you in advance because I did in fact use words of more than
>two syllables and strung them together to make sentences, which I then
>strung together to make a point. I hope it isn't too difficult to decipher.

I'm sure you tried your best, dear. Do get yourself a better facilitator soon.


--
"This isn't a post made to be debated, this is my view on things."
- TopCat

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