| From: | Stephen Delear <shadow@***.com> |
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| Subject: | Re: Killing in Shadowrun... |
| Date: | Mon, 27 May 1996 00:54:21 -0500 (CDT) |
> Then your game is different. Please explain this before you post next time.
Actually since I've never seen anything official on who makes the
fairlight I figured it had to be a fairly small group.
>
> >There is a very special kind of nationalization for extraterritorial entities
> >it's called an invasion.
>
> Which they can't pull off without dying in the process, I've described the
> consequences of any such action quite clearly.
How are you going to shut off the power when UCAS military has ejected
all of your personal from the facility.
>
> >Tell me have you ever heard of the threat (T) Roosevelt used against the
> >coal mine owners in the early part of this century?
>
> Teddy Roosevelt of 2057? Nope, haven't heard a thing about him. There's
> still coal mines in 2057?
Basically he told the coal mine owners that they would either settle a
strike with their workers or he would send in the troops to opperate the
mine and give them orders to shoot to kill any one who stood in there
way. The owners caved rather quickly.
>
> >And UCAS dosn't have it's own Thor-shot? Not to mention the nukes they keept
> >are no doubt on ballistic missile subs so dropping on UCAS insures
> >nothing except that Tokayo will recive a 20 megaton bomb the hard way.
>
> The UCAS doesn't have Thor-shots, the corporate court owns & controls them.
Sure and I suppose you also belive North Koria dosn't have the bomb.
> They just sit out in space and wait to be dropped on their target(s). I
> wonder why you haven't realized yet that I've said several times in no
> uncertain words that nukes are a major no-no in 2057. Use of one (known
> possession of one as well) would get the found target nailed badly by every
> nation/corp in the world.
I'm sure the citizens of Chicago wish some one had told Ares that. Also
we're talking about a responce to the resumption of the Ghost dance here,
most nations and corps consider that worse then nukes.
>
> >> I'm sure they kept a couple of keepsakes, but if they were to use them, then
> >> every country in the world as well as every corp in the world would come
> >> down on them like the hand of an angry god.
> >And burying UCAS in thor-shot wouldn't? What I was refering to was a
> >reinstatement of the great ghost dance which most nations would consider the
> >equivalent to an impending nuclear attack.
>
> Which is my point. The UCAS knows what would happen so would never even
> dream of doing something so stupid as attacking a megacorp.
Actually no corp would be stupid enough to push UCAS into a fight or die
situation.
>
> > > So I don't think the UCAS would
> >> have much, if anything to do with attacking any corp.
> >Hum nock out zurich orbital, destroy the corporate headquaters of each of
> >the big 8. Hope that they intercept the incoming thor-shot and generally
> >prepare for WWIII.
>
> Can't intercept a thor-shot. You know what it is? A steel rod with a
> dog-brain homing system that drops from space at a velocity that allows for
> explosions that make nukes look like firecrackers. No explosive in 'em.
> Just REALLY fast and high mass. Mass driver is the popular phrase for such
> a thing.
Do you know how big one of those things would have to be to reach the
surface with out burning up. You might want to have a look at some of
the theorys on intercepting meteorites in the upper atmospher before you
say that thor-shot can't be intercepted. Basically you blow it into
small enough chunks that they burn up during reentery (not at all hard if
you only have to shatter a steal rod). Oh and keep in mind that it takes
time for thor-shot to hit the ground (these things are droped from really
high up) I wouldn't be at all surprised if UCAS had a last ditch magical
defense against these things (last time I ran the figures the UCAS
millitary had around 2000 magically active personal how much they can do
depends on how big the strike is).
> Good luck getting near the Orbital with any military might, the
> stuff that place has makes the old "Star Wars" program of the 80's look
pitiful.
Do you have any idea how many ways there are to take out a space
station.
>
> The UCAS isn't stupid. They would never bring down that kind of hell on
> themselves. They know better.
UCAS spend 250 billion on it's millitary last year a magacorps yearly
proffits are only around 100 billion. The corps know better then to
force UCAS to act against them. Even with out using nukes do you have
any idea the kind of firepower UCAS packs. These people maintain six (or
more) carrier battle groups for gods stake! The only corps with anything
like a carrier group are Aztechnology (or should I say the goverment of
Aztlan) and I would presume Ares. The corps can push around most
goverments but going toe to toe with the UCAS army is not something they
want to try.
Stephen
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