From:	Loki <loki@*******.com>
Subject:	Re: [SR2]: Fat-bac -Reply
Date:	Tue, 03 Sep 1996 23:09:25 -0700

Galen "Marphod" Silversmith wrote:
>
> On Wed, 4 Sep 1996, Ubiquitous wrote:
> > Since watchers cannot truly manifest, you'd have to do with a
> > low force (1?) elemental spirit, but that might make bad things happen...
>
> A small spirit shouldn't be much more of a problem than a watcher, esp.
> if they use concealment on themselves.
>
> but watcher's can't manifest? Thats a new interpretation on me; I don;t
> see how else they can do some of the listed watcher abilities without it
> (attack dog, bug, etc.)

Page 74 of Grimoire II:

"Watchers exist solely on the etheric plane in astral space. They can
never leave the etheric plane, either to manifest phsyically in the
material world or to ascend to a metaplane.

Watchers can see and hear the physical plane, and can even manifest
visibly and speak to physical beings. Like apparitions, however, they
cannot touch material things or affect the physical plane directly."

Basically they can Obi-Wan Kanboi but they gain no physical properties,
like an astrally projecting mage. The attack dog task says "The watcher
is assigned to guard a place in astral space. It will only react to
intruders in astral space, and attacks the ferociously."

No, I'm not a rules lawyer. I just happened to have the Grimoire II here
on my desk opened to that page when I saw this message. ;o)


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