From:	dbuehrer@****.org (David Buehrer)
Subject:	Re: Re[4]: [SR2]: Fat-bac -Reply
Date:	Thu, 5 Sep 1996 11:32:02 -0600 (MDT)

Faux Pas wrote:
|
|[snip] everyone involved in the discussion has been mis-reading the
|rules. The rule that says that no astral being cannot influence anything on
|the physical plane doesn't exist. The rule is an astral being cannot
|directly influence anything on the physical plane. Directly influence.
|
|The rule everyone should be paying attention to is the rule about
|non-magical living things having corporeal auras in the astral plane. As
|the auras are corporeal, they cannot exist together. That blows this
|"forced integration" of the net passing through the astral mage some people
|were talking about.
|
|What happens when the FAB net covers a mage is the mage's aura influences
|the FAB's aura in the astral plane. The effect of this in the physical
|plane is that the net appears to wrap around a gap of air. When the physad
|attacks the mage with a FAB club, the club's aura hits the mage's aura. The
|effect of this in the physical plane is that the club strikes something in
|the air. The astral mage is not DIRECTLY influencing the physical plane, he
|is INDIRECTLY influencing the physical plane. No rules are being broken.
|There is no "forced integration". FAB items won't pass through astral
|mages/beings.
|
|Go ahead and rethink this. FAB does work according to the rules in the SR2
|black book and in the Grimoire. If anyone can find anything that says
|"astral beings cannot influence anything on the physical plane", then FAB
|won't work.

So a living net can wrap itself around an astral being but
the same being cannot affect the net? IMHO, there's a
major contradiction here. In the case of the net falling
on the being the physical plane is accomodating the astral
plane, but if the being tries to affect the net (by moving
while the net is on him) the physical plane won't
accomodate the astral plane while at the same time it
allready is accomodating the astral plane? That's like
having both tea and no tea at the same time (play Infocom's
"Hitchiker's Guide to the Galaxy" to really get that joke).

Wait a sec, check the rules again on astral travel and
FAB. I remember some comment about bacteria not affecting
astral movement and that FAB works because the bacteria are
larger than normal. Find out what happens to normal
bacteria and I think we'll have an ending to this real soon
(I would look but for the fact that they don't let me bring
my games to work :(

-David

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