From:	dbuehrer@****.org (David Buehrer)
Subject:	Re: Re[4]: [SR2]: Fat-bac
Date:	Thu, 5 Sep 1996 11:13:03 -0600 (MDT)

Mike Elkins wrote:
|
|Someone else wrote:
|
|>>What happens when the FAB net covers a mage is the mage's aura
|>influences >the FAB's aura in the astral plane. The effect of this in
|>the physical plane is that >the net appears to wrap around a gap of
|>air. When the physad attacks the >mage with a FAB club, the club's
|>aura hits the mage's aura. The effect of this in >the physical plane
|>is that the club strikes something in the air. The astral mage >is not
|>DIRECTLY influencing the physical plane, he is INDIRECTLY influencing
|>the physical plane. No rules are being broken. >There is no "forced
|>integration". FAB items won't pass through astral >mages/beings.
|
|We differ on the meaning of directly influencing the physcial plane. I
|see it as meaning this: An astral mage can't cast spells at
|non-magical objects, pick up things, physcially hurt people, etc.
|He/She CAN appear visible to people on the physical plane and
|communicate with them, though. He/She could appear, ask someone to do
|something that affects the phsical plane and then dissapear again.
|That is INDIRECTLY influencing the physcial, IMHO. Holding up a net,
|even without meaning to, is DIRECTLY influencing the physical.

I agree with Mike. The previous poster (sorry, lost your name when I
re-formated your and Mike's posts) used the words "direct" and
"indirect" to describe "active" and "passive" actions that,
IMHO,
described events which have a *direct* affect the physical plane. If
there is a conflict between a physical aura and an astral being I feel
that any affects should take place wholey on the astral plane.

|One rule of thumb I sometimes use, although it is not official by any
|means, is that pre-awakening when the magic level was very low, it was
|impossible to prove magic existed. Until someone casts spells or
|summons spirits to manifest (ALMOST impossible pre-2011), no matter
|what is swimming out in the astral, even if you can see it via astral
|perception, there is no way to prove you aren't making it up to a
|mundane. Otherwise, sometime in the last 5000 years, someone WOULD
|have proved magic existed. Just my opinion, but FASA seems to have a
|similar mind set.

Good point. Kinda like dark matter. Astronomers are pretty sure it's
out there, but they just can't find it. Maybe dark matter is really
the horrors (dark matter = horrors, get it? ;'D ...Um, you know, after
thinking about it, that's a really scary thought. <starts looking for a
hiding place>

-David

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