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From: GRANITE <granite@**.net>
Subject: Re: Astral/physical debate
Date: Fri, 06 Sep 1996 01:20:21 -0700
AHayes@*******.com.au wrote:
> Ok - I have no problem with this in that those on the astral can affect
> dual-natured creatures and vice versa. (Both a benefit and a liability
> depending on your point-of-view.)


I really should go to bed instead of answering this..But oh well..It is not
the nature of the aura that causes this deadly conflict..it is the 2 auras
trying to occupy the same space thing..

>
> > I would say the same for an Ivy net as well..it [the ivy] dies having
> no
> > willpower...
>
> This I disagree with entirely. The problem with this is that Ivy is *not*
> dual-natured, and you cannot affect physcial objects from the Astral
> unless they are, or there is a conduit between the Astral and the
> Physical planes (such as a focus or the like) nearby.
>

Since gravity is dragging the net down to the ground..this is what forces the
auras into contact..otherwise if the astral entity were not forced into this
conflict, the conflict would be impossible..but since gravity is dragging the
living net down and the astral form cannot hold it up they both try and
occipy the same space one has to go on to a higher plane..this is resolved
through willpower level much like spirit combat with power levels..Check it
out it is in the CS book...

> An extension of your thinking is that anyone on the astral can force
> anything with a lifeforce into a Willpower test - the loser dying. This
> is silly. (Imagine magi able to kill people with their superior willpower
> from the Astral plane. So long as they were braced against something
> organic, if all they had to do was punch someone...)
>

Again, the intersection of auras must be forced..punching at a mundane aura
results in the astral entity shunting around the mundane aura..If say a
mundane person sleeps sealed in a living..and the..Never mind..Simply put it
is extremely unlikely an astral entity would be able to find a situation
where this sort of thing would be possible..And remember it is very painful
for the astral entity as well as deadly dangerous...
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-------------------------------GRANITE

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