| From: | "Ferri Pagano" <Ferri_Pagano_at_STRM__Amsterdam1@******.com> |
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| Subject: | Re[6]: [SR2]: Fat-bac -Reply |
| Date: | Fri, 06 Sep 96 15:39:10 EST |
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%As near as I can muddle it out. Astral being cannot directly affect physical
%objects because they lack mass.
%Here's the explanation.
%Mundanes can affect mundane objects because they share all the same
%dimensions. mass, height, etc. and if you want to get technical "astral
%signature" (for lack of a better word.)
%Astral travellers can affect astral objects because they share the same
%attributes - astral attributes.
ok, lets see it your way for now...
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%example - Astral mage trying to move a plant. Both have an astral aura.
%However, the mage lacks physical mass, while the plant does not. Since the
%actor, cannot act upon all of the actees attributes, he cannot affect the
%plant. Next example - FAB net trying to trap an astral mage. Both have an
%astral
%aura. The FAB net has mass in the material plane, while the mage does not.
%Here the actor (net) can act upon all of the actees attributes, the fact
%that the actor has mass does not matter to the interaction process. The
%net has enough astral presence to trap the mage.
mmhhmmm, BUT the net only falls down because of the fact that it has MASS,
which is why gravity attracts it. so the NON-COMMON attribute <which you
state cannot influence accross the "astral barrier" > is the cause of the
mage's entrapment..... I think this constitiutes a logic gap in your
theory.
If you abandon the whole thing though and just say that the astral form has
no mass, you have a couple of other "weird things" that will happen when an
astral mage interacts with a living thing. [like if you swat a hand at him
you'll send him off planet!]
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%One last opinion on this - We can believe that it's possible for a human to
%leave his body and travel around the world as a spirit, but we can't believe
%that a fat bacteria could stop him? C'mon, it's all in your head anyway. :-)
%If SR was a science FICTION game then I'd probably not allow FB either, but
%it's not, it's science FANTASY. Once magic comes into the game, all bets are
%off. Anyhting is possible. :-)
Sure, I'm for keeping astral and physical separated,[ I don't even allow
mages to manifest, to enhance roleplaying....] yep, it's magic but do blame
fasa for this whole sorry idea. you get too many problems when you mix astral
and physical, and this discussion DOES have meaning, because you as a gm have
to have concrete answers to your players' harebrained ideas.
-fab clubs indeed... harruuummpphh!
Ferri.
