From:	dbuehrer@****.org (David Buehrer)
Subject:	Re: Re[6]: [SR2]: Fat-bac -Reply
Date:	Tue, 10 Sep 1996 07:33:58 -0600 (MDT)

Robert Watkins wrote:
|
|I wrote:
|
|>What I'm assuming is that an astral being cannot apply any
|>"physical" force to a physical being. While the same
|>astral being can apply a "physical" force to another astral
|>being.
|>
|>What the rules say is that an astral being cannot affect a
|>physical being that is not dual natured. IMHO, this
|>implies that an astral being cannot impart physical energy
|>in any way shape or form upon a physical being.
|
|Um... okay. How do Manipulation spells work in your game, just out of
|curiosity?

Hopefully by the rules :) A mage casts a manipulation spell
and the spell manifests in physical form on the astral
plane, or changes the physical properties of a target.
What does this have to do with astral mages bumping into or
getting trapped between auras? I feel that an astral mage
cannot directly impart physical energy. A manipulation
spell is an indirect method of imparting physical energy.

|Heck, how does the damage to an aura in astral space get
|reflected in the body?

This one has never come in my game. Off the cuff I would
say that it doesn't.

|A quick, oh, four, maybe five seconds thought shows that there ARE ways
|astral beings (eg, spells) can impart physical energy to a physical being.

Only if they can ground through... Oh no you don't! I'm
not getting into that debate! ;)

Seriously though. I see where your going. How do spells
which are astral beings affect physical beings? ...Okay, I
admit that I'm a coward and don't want to travel down this
line of debate.

|>This is why I don't believe that a mage cannot support a
|>living net that has fallen on top of him catching him
|>between the ground and it's aura. The mage has no physical
|>attributes (IMHO) to counter the physical force of gravity
|>that is pulling the net down.
|
|Well, you got that right... but the same mage CAN deflect the bacteria
|around him, though it slows him down with FAB. Again, an obvious case of
|Astral/Physical interaction. It's just not a strong enough interaction to
|counter the physical force of gravity.

Gah! Now I know how Bill Clinton feels. I thought I had
it figured out, then Sasha had to go and make the train
comment. I'm gonna wait for difinitive answer from
FASAMike. If any PCs in my game manage to get themselves
into this situation before that happens they die, Die, DIE,
DIE!! <Hahahahahahahahahahahah> (Sounds of wrestling
between Dave and men in white coats)

|| "As soon as we started programming, we found to our surprise that it |
|| wasn't as easy to get programs right as we had thought. Debugging |
|| had to be discovered. I can remember the exact instant when I |
|| realized that a large part of my life from then on was going to be |
|| spent in finding mistakes in my own programs." -- Maurice Wilkes |

ROFL!

-David

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