| From: | Faux Pas <fauxpas@******.net> |
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| Subject: | Re: sidebars & potty mouth |
| Date: | Tue, 10 Sep 1996 20:11:31 -0500 |
>>>> And I've explained that you cannot take the sidebar comments as actual
>>>> rules. Find a rule that supports the forced integration theory.
>>>
>>>but you didn't give a good reason why not..
>>
>>Yes I did.
>
>Wrong question. :) Give us a good reason why you cannot factor in the
>sidebar comments to cover discrepencies in the rules.
Me: You cannot take the sidebar comments as actual rules.
FASA: "Various shadowrunners have annotated these articles with thier
opinions and additional information they consider to be of interest to the
reader. The gamemaster must decide whether to treat these options and
evaluations, inserted by individuals who may hold a biased view, as valid."
This is from the Guide to Real Life.
Like I've said before, similar statements can be found in various
sourcebooks. Because the GM has leeway as to if the postings are valid,
they are not hard and fast rules. That's why you can't treat sidebar
comments as actual rules for the Shadowrun 2nd Edition game system. If you
as the GM says, "that's how it'll work in my game", then that's a house rule
and it'll work for your game. When FASA says "standard doors use the
Barrier Rating of their construction material. Security doors have twice
the rating of the material", then that's a hard and fast Shadowrun 2nd
Edition rule. You can always make up a house rule to counter that, but
we're discussing the rules that FASA uses in it's Shadowrun game system.
>There's another rule that says that a purely astral being cannot affect a
>purely physical being, like a net. Yet you want us to believe that the
>mage's aura can hold up the net. I want us to believe it can't. It's an
>either/or situation. Obviously ONE of the rules is going to get broken.
I see that we're not going to agree on this, but I'll correct your above
statements. The first should read: "There's another rule that says that a
purely astral being cannot DIRECTLY affect a purely physical being, like a
net." Your paraphrasing of my position is also incorrect. It should read:
"Yet you want us to believe that the mage's aura can stop the FAB's aura in
the net's descent which in turn would halt the net's physical component from
falling." I never have said that a purely astral being [the mage's aura]
can affect a purely physical being [the net] directly.
What I have said is this: Because it is impossible to pass through any
living being in astral space, the FAB's aura rest on top of the mage's aura.
The FAB's aura in the net cannot move down, so the physcial part of the FAB
doesn't move down. The physical part of the FAB doesn't move down, so the
net casing over the FAB doesn't move down. This, the net stopping in the
air, is all an indirect effect of the FAB's aura touching the mage's aura.
And an astral being can indirectly affect objects on the physical plane. My
reasonings don't break either of the rules.
You want us to believe that it is possible to pass through any living being
in astral space. This is based off of something that cannot be called a
rule and invalidates the rule I've been quoting all along.
>the shadowtalk. QED, until there's more information, I'll take Magister's
>comments as being at least mostly true, as they give me the least number
>of inconsistencies with the exisiting rules, and common sense!
Your choice. You're using a house rule instead of FASA's rules for
Shadowrun. [Not that there's anything wrong with that. My group uses house
rules for initiative and melee combat.] As I don't see any conflicts
regarding my logic regarding aural interaction (or any inconsistancies with
the existing rules), my group is going to stick with what I've come up with
(pretty much the rules that David B. stated a day or two ago.)
-Thomas Deeny
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