From:	"Andre' Selmer" <031ANDRE@******.wits.ac.za>
Subject:	Re: SINs and cred
Date:	Fri, 27 Sep 1996 10:13:20 GMT + 2:00

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@ >>
@ >That's kinda the way we play it too, although we use cash bills as well...
@ >Although it tends to be pretty rare. Not many people use cash,, which
@ >actually makes it more tracceable...:)
@
@ Now there's an interesting statement..... :-)
@
@ There is a large SINless population in Seattle (for instance - I'm not
@ even considering other cities at the mo') without a SIN, you can't have
@ a certified credstick, unles you can afford to buy one, which most
@ SINless and homelesss can't, therefore it would seem sensible for these
@ people to deal in cash, (either through state benefits - I can't see
@ that these would be abolished, or begging) sooooo, logically, there
@ should still be a substantial cash flow in most major UCAS cities,
@ seeing as the barter system is unlikely to be reintroduced. I use the
@ game where cash is cash, and credsticks are the credit card/cheque books
@ of today. Sorry, but I have a real problem giving certified credit to
@ homelesss/SINless people where no track can be kept of their
@ whereabouts, and the majority don't have the income to allow for one.
@
The assumption that is being made in this case is that the
certified credstick can only have money removed from it. In our group
we play it more akin to a telephone smart-card. The card has an upper
limit defined by its rating (the old ebony, silver, platinum etc
ratings), individuals can transfer funds from the stick at any old
place (so long as it connecected to a bank of sorts), funds can be
placed into the credstick at any bank teller or 'autoteller'. Every
transaction however has a 'transaction ID number attached to it. When
the funds are cleaned this ID tag is altered to some other ID number.

Oops slightly off topic. There is nothing stopping the sinless
having multiple certified credsticks for 10=Y= each. In this way it
is similar to modern cash. I'll give you 50 =Y= for item x, and the
homeless gives the seller 10 certified credsticks of 5 =Y= each.



Andre' `the Odd'

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