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From: Pete Sims <petesims@********.demon.co.uk>
Subject: Re: New Idea: Aliens
Date: Sun, 29 Sep 1996 15:30:56 +0100
In article <199609290849.DAA18635@***.ncweb.com>, Steven Ratkovich
<chaos@*****.com> writes
>Hey guys, what do you think of this idea? Now, I know it's not Shadowrun,
>but....
>
>What about using the Shadowrun Rules System to play an RPG based on the
>movie Aliens?
>
Painfull, isn't it easy enough to kill people with bugs now, without
introducing xenomorphs with concentrated acid for blood?? :-)

>Ok, another idea? Since FASA's mixing space into the game now, so what
>about incorporating them into the game? Granted, this would definately NOT
>be anything remotely official, or even close, but...
>
Space Above & Beyond, is based in a similar timescale to Shadowrun (I
believe there is only a few years in between them), Aliens is set a
considerable way into the future, and at this time, we don't have multi-
billion dollar interplanetary refineries and stuff. However, I have
been using Space development and exploration for a little while in SR,
with colonies on the moon and a "mining/industrial" complex on Mars
(though there are other reasons for the presence on the red planet :-)
I, tend to agree with the view that SR would be spoiled by the
introduction of "aliens" (in any form), some of the creatures we have
now are alien enough. As for ancient alien civilisations, yes, I can
live with that, but I'd much rather that SR didn't head off into the
Conspiracy X/Hard Core SciFi realms.

>Maybe the Horrors ARE aliens, similar to the movie aliens...?
Apparently (?**?) these things are pan-dimensional beings from some
metaplane, their exact origin is a mystery, I don't personally like the
"alien from another world" idea, they are bad enough as they are in raw
form, without introducing alien technology, this was already covered in
a strange form in GDW's "Dark Conspiracy", which I felt was ruined as a
result of the involvement of interplanetary/trans-dimensional Cthulhu
style intelligence and terror. I sincerely hope that FASA will deal
with this in a sensible form that will complement SR rather than
rewriting the core of what is an excellent game.

The Horrors *are* aliens, they are alien to our "dimension", as is
anything from the metaplanes. But aliens as portrayed in any movie
involving "aliens" is more than I want to deal with.

I don't mind the occassional discovery, like John Carpenters' "Thing",
and may use something similar in the game one day, but I *really* don't
want flying saucers, and "greys" etc. running around in SR.

After introducing colonies on the moon, mars, a manned explorer for our
solar system, several new space stations, slightly rewriting the orbital
concept from FASA to fit in with a "spacer vs earther" view, and
introducing the Dead Zones, mapping North America and placing the
"zones" I don't want to even consider the concept of an alien invasion,
or to be honest a Horrors' invasion. Earth Dawn and Shadowrun should
IMHO remain seperate games, although I don't mind connective references.
There has always been speculation that we are descended from a race of
superior beings in Earth's distant past, but that we have forgotten much
of the previous technology, and are only now slowly relearning it. I
can live with these references, but a full crossover is quite
frightening.

I can safely say, that this is an area of Shadowrun I am having to
consider very carefully, mainly in order to decide just how much of this
I will use in *my* game.

>
><ducks into an asbestos bunker, just in case:)>
Not necessary from to hide from me. I prefer blasters to flamers, and
seeing as blaster haven't been invented yet.... no problem.
>
>Ideas? Comments? Questiions? Flames?
see above ^^^^^^^ (not from here)

TTYL
Pete
--
Pete Sims
Heroes or Fools? That's a determination others will make in hindsight. But by
being here now, we make that determination for ourselves, and it's neither.
Lt.Col.T.C.McQueen

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