From:	Jonathan Wright <jwrigh01@********.ca>
Subject:	Re: Invisibliity/Silence revisited
Date:	Sun, 29 Sep 1996 13:57:33 -0400 (EDT)

On Sun, 29 Sep 1996, Steven Ratkovich wrote:

> Ok, a friend of mine (the one with Ultrasound Sights that started the whole
> debate the first time around) is still trying to find a way around the
> Invis/Silence combo. Here are some ideas that he had,and what are your thoughts.
>
> 1) UV. Would the Invis affect a light source such as this. I said that
> it's still light and would be affected.

I agree, light in its most general sense is all light including UV and IR.

> 2) A gamma wave beam, working on the sonar idea. Or any sort of radiation,
> low level. Of course, for one, this is radiation and dangerous (deadly) to
> work with. Alkso, gamma rays are how the Incredible Hulk was created <grin>.

Don't know about this one, gamma radiation is merely light energy of a
_really_ short wavelength (or long, it's been a couple of years since my
last physics course)

> 3) An ares super squirt with paint on wide spray and hose the area. He'sll
> become visible. Of course,you still need to hit the mage for this to work.

Okay, this one boils down to the exact working of an invisibility spell.
Does a physical invisibility spell bend light around the subject a couple
of millimetres away from the subject (much like the Bandersnatches
adaptive colouring ability)? If so, this technique doesn't work very
well as the paint hits the target, covering him/her and then becomes
invisible along with him. Of course the general location of the target
can be deduced by the lack of paint hitting floor/wall behind him.

> 4) Some sort of low level radiation spray,sothat he would show up as a heat
> source. Once again, you're working with a dangerous subject. Can you say
> cancer, boys and girls? I knew you could.

Actually this might work if you used it the other way round, looking for
what's soaking up the ambient radiation source you've flooded the room
with. Better yet use something non-lethal so you don't harm yourself
trying to harm him. Light smoke, and fire sprinklers come to mind.

> 5) How would a sonic weapon work against the spell? The sound would be
> dissapated by the spell, would the force of the wave still do anything?

Sound is force moving through a medium. If its silenced it doesn't impact
the target. A really munchkinous player could extend a silence spell
effect to give them immunity from concussive blasts.

> 6) Grenade in the middle of the Ultrasound Blind Spot...:)

As they say: Close only counts in horse shoes and hand grenades :)

Jon Wright