| From: | Gurth <gurth@******.NL> |
|---|---|
| Subject: | Re: Moot Point to which I'll respond anyway |
| Date: | Tue, 3 Dec 1996 13:41:33 +0100 |
This will be the last post I make on this subject, before it gets to look
too much like a flame war...
> Firstly you make claims about "All decent Word Processors".
> Now you admit you've only got experience in MS-DOS, M$ Windoze, and two
> others? (One of which I can tell you is *ancient* and *useless* today.
> SOTA - can't escape it.)
I never said anything about that -- and I certainly never made the claim
that, say, Tasword II could handle RTF.
> And to boot, you admit you don't know how using RTF will impact other
> people.
What has been happening here is this: Fro asked for which format he
should use. Two or three people who refuse to come near the OS and
applications used by a large number of people on this list start
complaining about how they can't use the suggested formats. Two or three
others respond. The rest of the list keeps quiet (presumably because they
agree with the original choice, or just don't care).
RTF *is* more or less a universal format, because nearly all DOS and
Windows-based word processors used today can read it. Since the vast
majority of PCs runs under DOS or Windows, and only a small percentage of
users run another OS, I say RTF is a good enough format for an E-zine.
If you want to use Linux, go ahead -- but I think you shouldn't complain
if someone brings out something in a format you can't use.
Is it so much to ask to find a PC running DOS or Windows once every two
months to print out a couple of pages of text?
And from another message:
> So now you're advocating stealing. No, it's not free. It is copyrighted
> and it is not freeware. It costs what... $35+ per copy?
>
> But we can tell you don't mind that theft, nor advocating it. (Ref to
> your "I now nor care" above)
Yeah, I've copied PKZip from somewhere; I've copied lots of other stuff
from lots of other places as well. Show me someone who hasn't.
> You presented them as *facts*. That's wildly misleading when someone
> asks for opinions and they trust your judgement. Then later you admitted
> to not knowing (or apparantly caring) about those who don't read RTF, and
> in the same paragraph you state that you don't know much besides
> DOS/Windoze.
This is going exactly the same as that house rules/Tom Dowd quote thread
-- you should go into politics and stop bothering the rest of us. Yes, I'm
getting really tired of this now, and I'm not going to respond to any more
of these messages.
> Sounds like a TV Evangelist - what you've tried, once, is good enough
> for the whole world. God forbid something out there works *better*...
In case you haven't figured it out, you're just as narrow-minded as you're
making me out to be.
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> > I'm not going to even comment on this...
>
> Well you can't with any credibility.
> You did tell us that we should learn to use RTF "because every decent
> word processor can read it", and I was refraining from being the same.
I was saying I don't like RTF because it doesn't look as good as a
well-produced RTF file. Nothing more, until you twisted it around like
you're doing with most things I say.
> As well, from someone who has done OS-level design and worked
> on compilers in the past (my student status is an on-the-side thing
> *grin* I have a real job) - Microsoft can't create an orignal product to
> save thier butts.
[snip]
> Etc, etc, etc.
That has nothing to do with this thread -- it was about whether RTF can
be considered universal enough to be used for an E-zine. If you ask me, it
is -- the impression I get is that all you're doing is shouting real loud
because you fear you won't be able to read it, and then turn all of it
into a "my OS is better than yours/MS sucks" so you can have a legitimate
reason for not using an RTF-capable word processor.
> As for blowing things out of proportions:
[snip what I'm supposed to have said]
> (paraphrased) "I have to do too many button clicks and menu drags, and
> that's too irritating"
Yeah, right. Believe whatever you want, I'm going to find something useful
to do...
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