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From: John E Pederson <lobo1@****.COM>
Subject: Re: Matrix awakening
Date: Tue, 17 Dec 1996 19:34:04 EST
On Mon, 16 Dec 1996 22:52:31 UT Peter Coxon <coxoff@***.COM> writes:
><<SNIP!!!>>
<snip!>
>Okay, I might go on in this bit.
>1. AI I ran AI kind of like free spirits but in the matrix, the two
>that I had
>one was based on a player (possed as a fixer) and the other was an
>anima (my
>decker still hasn't worked it out he thought it was a Otaku :-) ).
How did the spirit jack in? No datajack, no electro-neurological impulses
for the electrode/simsense hardware to pick up, were they perhaps decking
in a tortoise?
>2. err Teleportation...I do A-level physics so I could be wrong on
>this, but I
>would have thought you could do something similar to worm holes just
>pulling
>two bits of astral space close together open a door in reality and
>then step
>through. also there is the free spirits power that allow it to open
>astral
>gateways, mundanes can go into astral (not sure on this coz it is from
>memory)
>so theorectically free spirit opens gateway X people go through and so
>does
>the spirit, they move (fly) through astral to corresponding exit point
>and
>leave astral so basically they can travel through astral for the price
>set by
>the spirit. (note: the speed on astral is magic* 1000km/something
>isn't it?
>therefore Mund. could get onto astral but would be able to move at
>high speed)
I haven't yet figured out how the astral gateway power could do this
(unless we're talking a VERY powerful free spirit). Having just checked,
the power brings the planes closer together, close enough for anyone to
_project_ into the plane or appropriate metaplane. One could rule that a
powerful spirit could bring them close enouh together to intersect, but
it's not mentioned in the book...
>
>3. Just to really annoy people, I saw this program the other day
>explain who
>time travel might be possible, It works a bit like worm holes, you
>need two
>machine one in each time period then they open gateways to each other
>and you
>can step through. However there was one problem as soon as the gate
>ways
>touched they would explode....Could magic prevent this? the other
>problem with
>this is that you could only go back as far as the earliest time
>machine. this
>could lead to intersting adventures with people come back to kill
>there
>grandparents and such.... and then you get the annoying time
>discussions. all
>of the stuff on this was theorectical but so is most of the advanced
>physics
>today.
As far as I can tell, there's no reason magic couldn't accomplish this,
even without the two machines. Anything should be possible with magic,
provided enough mana can be channeled to do it.
>4. Matrix awakening...imagined world...what a load of CR*P! to be
>imagined it
>would have to only exist in our minds. The trix is graphical
>representation of
>millions of optical chips aound the world. saying it is imagined is
>like
>saying that the contents of your hard drive are just imagined. as to
>magic in
>the matrix, you have a mind probe spell right? that works by
>interpretating a
>bunch of electrical impulse in a load of grey mush. You could quite
>easily
>develope a magical spell to see who light move in fiber optic cables
>and then
>convert it into read/viewable data/whatever. A quick run on a slightly
>inadequite spell generator came up with it having a drain around the
>f/2 -1 D
>(ouch) but it is okay as far as I can tell. this might not work as you
>need
>light amplifications at points along the cable. as to affecting the
>trix you
>would need a sperate illusion spell. which would work just like
>programs....
Personally, I haven't got any problem with the Matrix Awakening idea (the
spontaneous development of semi-artificial intelligence, for instance. Or
the rapid evolution of such intelligence once it forms). I also have no
problem with the idea of magickal entities invading the Matrix, so long
as I can come up with an explanation for it (possessed decker, Manajack
spell or the like, that sort of thing).
<snip>
>*Tim Braces himeslef for flying carp, flames, fire/snow balls and
>chewed
>keyboards*
Nothing coming form this direction8)

John Pederson "God is dead"
lobo1@****.com canthros1@***.com -Friedrich Nietzsche (1844 to
1900)
http://members.aol.com/lenoj001/johns.htm "Nietzsche is dead"
Only dead fish swim with the stream -God (everlasting to
everlasting)

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