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From: Lady Jestyr <jestyr@*******.DIALIX.COM.AU>
Subject: Re: Magic and the Matrix
Date: Fri, 18 Apr 1997 08:23:16 +1000
> >The point is - the Matrix system has been changed almost completely
> >under VR2.0 and nowhere in that book does it say that mages have a TN
> >penalty in the Matrix.
> I'm not going to second guess FASA on why this optional rule was
> left out of VR2.0 but the interface between Man and the Matrix has not
> changed. The rules on how a decker affects the matrix was changed.

This is true - however, to me this omission implies that FASA did not
want this rule to apply any more. If they wanted it to apply, they'd
have put it in the rulebook. Else how are new players supposed to cope?
(And when I say "new", I mean "started since VR1 went out of print")

FASA: Sorry, you're not allowed to do that with a decker.
Player: What? Why? It doesn't say so in my rulebook or the VR2.0
sourcebook!
FASA: Yeah, but sorry, you have to apply a rule from a years-old
sourcebook that is out of print, applies to a different edition of the
game, and has been replaced by something very different.
Player: !!!!

I hope you see my point.

> >If you want to bastardise rules from one edition to another, go for it -
> >most groups do, some a greater or lesser extent. But be very clear on
> >the fact that that IS what you're doing.
>
> BASTARDISE? You make it sound like I'm belittling the system or
> breaking rules for munchkin style play. (which a sorceror
> adept-rigger-decker sounds more fitting for that). What I'm doing is

Oi, skip the name calling. I'm sorry about bastardise, probably not a
good word. Intermix, then.

(And I hardly think with all the drain on the Karma a rigger/sorceror
could be a munchkin. She was USEFUL, but not overpowered. She could do
little bits of most stuff, that's all.)

> still using an optional rule (at half the penality) that I have been
> using since VR1.0 came out in `91. The rule does not contradict anything
> in VR2.0. I don't see where you get off claiming that doing so is a
> Bastardising of the game.

Chill! <handing MC23 a chill pill> All I"m saying is what YOU"RE
ADMITTING TO - that you're mixing and matching rules from the different
editions. That's cool, just about every group does it.

> And for the record I would like to add that I was not the one to
> bring this rule up. I am merely explaining why it exists. If you don't
> care for the rule fine but this aspect of mages and the matrix has been
> around since Never Deal With a Dragon.

And according to the presently available FASA material about decking and
the matrix - to wit, the SRII sourcebook and the VR2.0 sourcebook, the
rule no longer exists.

Lady Jestyr

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