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From: Tim P Cooper <z-i-m@****.COM>
Subject: Re: Noticing Spellcasting
Date: Sun, 27 Apr 1997 19:56:39 EDT
On Sat, 26 Apr 1997 20:13:56 -0500 "Boyd Stephen Smith, Jr."
>* All spellcasters require some gestures so, when under the effects of
>paralysation(sp?) or when properly restrained. For example, a magician
>with handcuffs no would be able to do the required gestures (since they
=
>are small - unless under Gesture Geas, then they are too big) but, with
=
>his arms bound behind his back he couldn't.

Huh? I thought the consensus was that gesturing was for the most part
optional and any done would be to fulfill a geas, or for RP purposes..

>* Some may say that since you are in a coma (or at least your physical
>body is) when in astral space, you couldn't make gestures at all. =
>However, I would say that your Astral body, A magician's "real essence",
=
>could make the gestures and therefore cast spells. This would mean =
>however, that a mage could "go astral" when bound, and still cast =
>spells. I would allow that, as it does make sense, and to cast spells =
>over to "real space" they require a bridge anyway.

Again, Huh?
1) you CAN'T cast a spell IN ASTRAL space and have it affect anything in
the PHYSICAL plane (barring grounding). It's a fundamental SR magic
principle.

2) No offence but that's a kinda hokey excuse for why you could cast
spells in astral space. It makes more sence if you remove the
_necessity_ to make gestures at all... after all it's not by the gesture
or physical motion that a spell is cast, it's by the manipulation of
astral energy.... any motion then becomes more on the lines of a
medatative focus (a bit like low level centering or something) to aid in
concentration and provide emphasis. (Regardless of whether or not my
shaman NEEDS to make any motion, he's still gonna fling his hands out
toward who ever he's hitting with Flamethrower....)

[holy cow! Did you include the entire message you replied to? And at the
BOTTOM to boot!
That's a big list no-no... read the FAQ]

~Tim

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