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From: L Canthros <lobo1@****.COM>
Subject: Re: Starting back in time
Date: Thu, 1 May 1997 18:01:46 EDT
On Thu, 1 May 1997 02:39:20 -0500 TEGTMEBC@******.ACS.MUOHIO.EDU writes:
>You wrote:
>> On Wed, 30 Apr 1997 18:54:57 -0500 TEGTMEBC@******.ACS.MUOHIO.EDU
>writes:
>> >> But there isn't any magic in 2010.
>
>> I thought that magic was very weak in 2010.
>
> Like I said later in my post, I don't recall exactly when magic
first
>appears in the timeline, bu ti don't think it is until the Awakening.
I've
>always thought that the first metahumans appeared at the same time as
magic,
>and thus the Mana Curve on the rise. But if magic appears before 2011,
>I can't think that it would be much before it, and thus no skilled
magicians
>by that time. At best, the magicians would still be trying to figure out
>their talents.
>All IMHO, of course.

Actually, Magic has been on the rise since about half-way through the
Fifth World (between 3500 and 2000 years before SR), though it fell for a
similar period (excluding the time during which it leveled out in the
middle) at the end of the 4th and beginning of the Fifth World. This
means that magic was at its lowest point (which may or may not have been
such that magic was entirely absent) for a short period, after which it
again began to rise, this is somewhere around 3000-2000 years after ED,
and 2000-3000 before SR. The question, of course, is how long will it
continue to rise? I'm pretty sure I've seen speculation (though I can't
remember if it was in one of the books or not) which proposed that
certain types of magically active (physads and vampires being the most
prominant ones, I think) existed/exist during the Sixth World.

>> >If someone wants to create
>> >a mage at
>> >the beginning of 2010, let them try.<snippitty do dah, snippitty
day!>
>
>> Does that mean that there are no physads in 2010 either. I seems that
>> characters would be very low power (like less than the SRII core book)
>> against corp playtoys with new chrome.
>
> I'd say no to the Phys. Ads. since I wouldn't say magic is
>around yet.
>But you are right on the fact that no one would be even close to the
PC's of
>the 2050's. Everyone would really work of of natural Atts. and

I'd be more than willing to allow such a campaign to include Physads,
but, while more common than other magicians, they would still be rare
(more so than in 205x) and not as powerful, and it would take longer for
their abilities to manifest, since Physads work by gradually 'grounding'
magic into their body and since there's less magic floating around, it
will take longer to absorb enough power:)

>wouldn't be the
>killing machines that they can become in 2050's. To me, that's almost
the
>point. People would have to be much be organized and more skilled to
pull off
>the same jobs that PC's in 2050 should do from the start. If they didn't
plan
>more, they'd just become bullet catchers. That and th efact that the
"corp
>playtoys" wouldn't have the chrome either. There wouldn't be any real
>cyberware

Well, there would be some low-quality cybereyes and ears (higher Essence
cost, lower efficiency, no extras) and cyberlimbs (see above).

>in 2010. Yes there would be prototypes, but nothing close to what we
have in
>205X. The playing field would be more level, it wouldn't be how much
>chrome you
>could put into your body, bu tmore of outsmarting your opponent. Kinda
>like the
>games like chess. Don't out muscle your opponent, you can't. Just
>outsmart him.
>That's what I do in the game I'm in, and I have access to the chrome.

But, as Tinner said a while back, players are invariably stupid (a broad
generalization, no offense intended). Players tend to not think before
acting (hey, they're playing, not GMing:).

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