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From: TEGTMEBC@******.ACS.MUOHIO.EDU
Subject: Re: Stupid 2 gun rule
Date: Thu, 8 May 1997 02:20:26 -0500
Lars whined incesantly:
> On Wed, 7 May 1997 21:53:49 EDT, Peter David Boddy <pdboddy@****.CARLETON.CA>
said:

> Well, I know this has been a hot topic, but if you study what I
> actually wrote, you'll see that I only talk about fireing at one
> target. (not that I don't think a master gunfighter can't hit two
> separate targets :)

So you want some really good runners to be able to hit two people at
the same time? They can do it in the movies, I'd love someone to try it in real
life. Granted, Shadowrun is geared to be played rather cinematically, but I
don't think we need cinema to be Rambo, or Schwartzinegger. Do we? It looks
good on film to have the characters do crap like this, but what a lot of GMs
want, is some semblance of REALISM. If they wanted the characters to be Rambo,
they'd play some game like **&*. That way the characters would all be able to
fall off thousand foot cliffs, stand up, brush themselves off, and go on their
merry way. Just because it happens in the movies, doesn't mean it SHOULD happen
in a game as good as SR.

> > Hehehhehe, now consider Cyberpunk 2020, where you can have two extra arms
> > attached...yes, I have tried firing four pistols at once, and I have to
> > tell ya, my character threw a lot of lead downwind, but didn't hit much.
> > The enemy kept his head down though....

> Spare me...:)

> > If you want to shoot a lot of bullets, and hit lots of targets, make a
> > munchy troll, and carry a minigun... =).

> I really would like people to agree that shooting with two guns at one
> target is not as preposterous as some want it to be.

Well, if you would like people to agree with you here, I'll do it. It
isn't preposterous to shoot two guns at the same time at the same person.
However, it is preposterous to think you could hit them with either of them, if
you aren't favoring either gun.

Some present
> ridiculus reasons for it not to be feasable, while the real reason is
> just to prevent munchkinism. I only want it to be possible, cuz it
> looks really cool :)

Now this is the most intelligent reasoning I've ever heard. The reasons
against it happening are rediculous, even though you haven't said why not, and
to top it off, you only want it "cuz it looks cool." OK, let's try an
experiment, shall we? Let's go down to the firing range and shoot two guns at
the same time. After your wrists heal, you can write us whether it's a good
idea to have people shooting "two fisted" and expecting to hit jack. I just
know you'll have a differing opinion.

-The Immortal Mental

PS- If this sounds rather pointed, its because it's supposed to, the whole
notion of shooting two guns at once just isn't as wonderful as you might think.

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