From:	Fade <runefo@***.UIO.NO>
Subject:	Re: [SR3] Drain
Date:	Fri, 4 Jul 1997 12:17:46 +0000

> You wrote:
> > My opinion is that F/2 coupled with fetishes and exclusive spells
> > leave drain too easy to resist. Make the disadvantages with using
> > fetishes and exclusive spells real, then it's okay enough, but as it
> > is, it's flawed.
> So argue for the revision or removal of exclusive and fetish-requirement
> modifiers. Nice and simple.

I've done so but got ignored. :)
Anyway I do not think they should be *removed*, only changed.
(As you say, revised.).


> > Now you can argue that F drain is too much; but
> > both you and I know that drain of a force 6 spell can be resisted as
> > if it was force 2, so your arguments sound a bit hollow in my ears.
> > But that's ok enough, since a force 11 spell can, with F/2, then be
> > resisted against a base drain TN of 3.
> > Now if that isn't 'major mojo'
> > reduced a bit too easily, then nothing is.
> I cannot argue with you there. But.... how?? (incredulous)

Exepndable fetish and exclusive modificatin reduces effective force
to 7, divide by two and round down gives 3.
As munchkin as anything I've seen, but perfectly legal. Would be
one big whopper manaball.




> > And of course if
> > exclusivity and fetishes was not part of the picture, then a drain of
> > F would be far too much; F/2 would then be fair.
> Aha!! Yes. Work on the part of the system that's a problem. :)

Well, I said in another post that these two subjects are connected
and *REALLY* should be discussed together.. :)
QUESTION: What house rules do people use to regulate this?


> > It's late, I'm tired. Be kind.
> I just really want to know how people get such low T#'s. Are people being
> allowed to _stack_ the two (excl. and e.Fet.?). My, that's munchkin. I'd
> laugh at any player that suggested it to me, but that's just me. Making mages
> myself, I tend to go for one or two spells as exclusive, the rest as standard.

As a matter of fact, I didn't laugh at the player, I told him I
didn't want his char in my game, but the effect was the same, I
guess. He left. He had *every* spell exclusive & exp. fetish. Still,
the vanilla rules allow it. (Or so I think; might be wrong. Still,
even without combo then the F11 spell would be resisted at 4
instead... not *that* much worse... 5 is sort of a limit; then it's
hard. 6 is bloody hard.).



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Fade

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