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From: Avenger <Avenger@*******.DEMON.CO.UK>
Subject: Re: Runner's Attitudes
Date: Sat, 5 Jul 1997 02:12:42 +0100
In article <01IKTPSM0QCM9I4AZC@******.acs.muohio.edu>, "Bruce H. Nagel"
<NAGELBH@******.ACS.MUOHIO.EDU> rambled on endlessly about Runner's
Attitudes
>You wrote:
>> Have you seen the camera? Do you know that there aren't others? Do you
>> know that there are no further security measures present? Is there only one
>> camera? Tough questions to have to answer on the fly, pray that you don't
>> get noticed while answering them...
>Detect <device>.

Plausible, but not necessarily successful on all devices, the spell
isn't the end answer for a situation, merely the beginning of a series
of clues. Magic is not all powerful.

>Physical Invisiblity (modified to also cover Thermo, jsut for
>kicks).

Maintaining the spell over several people for any period of time is
going to cause drain on the character of horrendous proportions,
individually, it's pointless as someone else will give the situation
away, also, again, it's not perfect. Covering invisibility for optical
detection does not mean you are undetectable, just that you can't be
seen. Again, not a perfect solution, merely a means to a possible end.

> Distractions (fires, explosives, a hostage situation elsewhere that
>the corp has interest in).

Too noisy, starts to involve Federal and other branches of law
enforcement. Extraterritoriality does not mean the corporation covers
the hostage situation, it's highly likely that the FBI would be involved
in this, after all those hostages may well be UCAS (whatever) citizens.
For isntance, the hostage situations that occur in embassies around the
world, they aren't ignored because the land belongs to another country,
they are countered with all possible forces. So, you've just made a
hell of a lot of noise, and achieved very little.

>Power outages,

Instantly attracts the attention of the relevant utility supplier, any
evidence of tampering or sabotage and you again have federal law
enforcement investigating, if the sabotage looks like common vandalism,
then local law enforcement is going to be alert and watching for other
incidents.

>matrix intrusion,

too noisy. Matrix intrusion is designed to be subtle, if you want to
make it noisy to attract attention, then alarm bells are going to start
ringing elsewhere in the complex and you have alert security again.

>harassment, and
>other 'not fair' tactics.

Don't understand this one. Sorry.

>Tracking employees home and getting info from them
>with Mind Probe,

Again magic... Sad that so many people have this mistaken belief that
magic is the answer to everything. It's a powerful tool, nothing more.

>or using them as a way in with Control thoughts or Influence.

Not a guaranteed success, and can result in totla failure, or only
partial success.

>There are ways. There are ways to get things done. And there are ways to help
>insure an escape should things hose up royally. Bomb threats.

Bomb threats again create vast amounts of noise, media coverage,
involvement of large quantities of law enforcement, bomb squad and
federal involvement, and any company worth it's salt in the hostile
situation of 205* is going to run a security scan to make sure it's not
also a potential target. Again - alert security and too much noise.

Shadowrunning is intended to be what it suggests - "Shadow" running, not
full media and federal bureau involvement.

>> Also, getting to the security center has to be perhaps the single most
>> difficult run imaginable to me. You have to get through everything from the
>> perimeter outside to the security center without setting off anything in
>> between. Impossible in my game, possible in some others...
>I reall yhate the word 'impossible'. It basically means the GM is saying
>'don't do that'. Is every site so secure? I *need* to get into doing corp
>security...

As has been said by people far better educated and more intelligent than
I - "nothing is impossible to a person who is determined" - Just bloody
difficult. :)


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