From:	Michael Broadwater <mbroadwa@*******.GLENAYRE.COM>
Subject:	Re: Runner's Attitudes
Date:	Mon, 7 Jul 1997 12:00:11 -0500

At 08:33 PM 7/2/97 -0005, woneal@*******.NET wrote:
>On 2 Jul 97 at 15:09, Michael Broadwater wrote:
>
>> At 03:25 PM 7/2/97 -0005, woneal@*******.NET wrote:
>> >On 1 Jul 97 at 23:24, Paul J. Adam wrote:
>> >
>> >>
>> >> The mere fact that a target is a megacorporation doesn't change the
>> >> financial cost of a given run against it, and your fixation that every
>> >> run against any megacorp involves a cost of billions is the crux of the
>> >> problem here. If the cost is small, the benefit of pursuit is similarly
>> >> small.
>> >
>> > That's half the crux. I get the distinct impression that Bob
>> thinks all
>> >runners are pond scum, low-lives, street trash and rank amatuers. He
>> >seems to think that there are no professionals in the shadow business,
>> >that they are all lying, thieving criminals. That a very limit view of a
>> >very diverse group. Obviously *some* runners fit into that category, but
>> >there are plenty who don't.
>>
>> Yeah, they're are all those heroe's out there that are clean cut,
>> wonderful people with no problems with society, and that's why they run
>> the shadows rather than use their skills to a productive end. I mean,
>> they learned all that great stuff at the corp and left because the corps
>> are bad mean people. Or they learned it in the military because gov't's
>> are all bad mean people. And now they run against corps and the gov't
>> for other corps and gov't's and don't worry about killing because, of
>> course, if you work for a corp, you aren't trying to feed your family and
>> be a good member of society, you're one of the bad mean people who's
>> bringing down the world with your crimes. You know, you kill people.
>> Oh, and shadowrunners who do are different. They're heroes of the common
>> man. You know, that ones that work at corps and try to be a productive
>> member of society. But not ones you encounter. Those are all bad mean
>> people, and shadowrunners are heroes and great guys. Yeah!
>>
>
> My we are feeling sarcastic aren't we. Borrowed Bob's blinders
did you?
>No, they aren't heroes of the common man, and no where did I say or imply
>that. What I did say is that not all of them are street punks.

No, you said all of them aren't criminals. That's a huge difference in
your arguement. Your example was of a criminal. Breaking and entering is
a crime, datat steals are a crime, casting a spell with intent to harm is a
crime, not having a SIN is a crime, carrying a weapon without the proper
permits is a crime. Shadowrunners=Criminals. QED.

Try and keep up.


Mike Broadwater
"I don't care if you don't like my manners. I don't like them much myself.
They're pretty bad. I grieve over them on long winter evenings."