From:	Caric <caric@********.COM>
Subject:	Re: [SR3] Spell Rituals
Date:	Thu, 10 Jul 1997 12:53:15 -0700

| > Hmmm...I may be misreading this, but I do think that someone should
| > be able to use their geas and other rituals at the same time, but I
| > don't think that if gesturing is a caster geas that they should get
| > a -1 to drain target as well as fulfill the geas with it. If they
| > want to gesture to fulfill the geas and then cast the spell
| > exclusively then more power to them.
|
| But you forget that before it was required, they could use it to
| decrease the drain anyway....so are making getting the geas that much
| more harsh? They now need to do it to remove a penalty AND get no
| bonus? That makes geasa much more cruel and
| detrimental....basically, EVEN WHEN YOU FULFILL the geas, it hurts
| you (because you can't get the bonus for the action). I think that
| counter the intention of the Geas (a conditional penalty).

A geasa should be a detriment period IMO...they shouldn't get any kind of
bonus for doing something that they have to do anyway. If they want the
bonus they can still use another ritual, but if he person didn't want a
geas they shouldn't have put in the extra ware, or been more careful. Now
this may seem harsh, but they can get rid of the geas later with initiation
and, why bother if you do it anyway and get a bonus for it?

| > Again with centering I say they can do it and other rituals, but the
| > centering itself should count as one of the ritual. I shouldn't be
| > able to center for successes and because my centering skill is
| > gesturing I also get a -1 to drain TN...cantering is already "using"
| > the gestures as part of it I say.
|
| But How do you counter my earlier point....that no one will both
| using Centering skills, since it is now more beneficial to simply get
| the drain bonus without wasting the Karma for the (almost always)
| lesser effect normal Centering provides?

I think that you and I have had much different experiences with centering
then. Centering is probably one of the most powerful metamagical abilities
in our game, it is worth FAR more than -1 to your drain target number.
Centering skills cost karma yes, but overall the benefits are definately
worth it.


-Caric

"If a man talks in the forest, and there isn't a woman around to hear him,
is he still wrong?"