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From: TopCat <topcat@***.NET>
Subject: Re: We Don't Need No Stinkin' Munchies!!! [Was Sr3 Combat spells]
Date: Thu, 17 Jul 1997 16:12:23 -0500
At 12:28 PM 7/17/97 -0600, David wrote:
>Also note that a Munchkin isn't defined by his character, but by
>himself. I've encountered a Munchkin that didn't have the brains to
>crunch the numbers on his character (the Pathetic Munchkin).

Agreed, Munchkins need not be able to powergame to be munchkins, but in
their character lies the expression of their tendencies. There are many
munchkins out there who don't know the rules of a game, but they know what
will allow them to win every fight while keeping them safe from harm and
they'll strive to make that happen in any way they can (preferrably with
some unique super-powerful item). I appear to have trashed my treatise on
munchkins, but the thread that recently popped up here did a good job
describing them.

>| As to my vision of SR... it's heavy on the roleplaying and light on the
>| combat. Numbers matter, but not near as much as they do in most campaigns.
>| Good decision-making and proper use of available resources and contacts is
>| what defines the success of the runner team.

>Ditto, but that's your and my campaigns. Please note that I'm not
>trying to argue with you, just point a few things. Powergaming has
>it's place in a Powergame (which can be a lot of fun if you've got a
>good GM). Powergamer does not equal Munchkin. Everybody's game is
>different and you should respect their philosophies as much as you
>want them to respect yours.

Agreed! Powergaming does have it's place in a Powergame. Perfectly said.
In a game where powergaming is the norm then it is fine, but it is still
powergaming. I've never said that powergamer means munchkin (why does
everyone think I said this?).

I don't have to respect various gaming philosophies, just as I don't have to
respect various people or practices. Not a very nice sentiment, I know, but
it's the way I am and, I think, the way we all are to one degree or another.
I don't respect munchkinous games and I have little respect if any for some
of the powergames out there. Not respecting a given gaming philosophy and
banning it from practice are two very different things though. I can't do
the latter.

>BTW, I respect your views. I don't always agree. Heck, I don't even
>always understand what the heck you're ranting about :)

I'm a tough guy to want to agree with... heh
--
Bob Ooton
topcat@***.net

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