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From: "Fisher, Victor" <Victor-Fisher@******.COM>
Subject: A WildCat, a Navy SEAL,
Date: Fri, 18 Jul 1997 09:44:06 -0400
TopCat continues to froth at the mouth 8-0

'...ex-Wildcat finds ex-Seal and they want to work together.
Couldn't find two groups perhaps more opposed to working together (NAN
and CAS). Throw in a Tir mage (everyone hates the elves) and it's a
party! There's no reason for them to be together (and yes, anyone can
come up with some BS story that'll link 'em, but BS by anyother name
still stinks.'

To which Kohl replys:
First off, TopCat, The SEALS work for the UCAS, NOT CAS! Second, as
anyone whose actually been in the military can tell you, the prime
reason for these two disparate peoples for working together comes down
to one word...PROFESSIONALISM!
A spec forces commando, if the objectives or opposition were the
same, these two people would MUCH rather work together than with a bunch
of disorganized, improperly (if at all) trained, UNPROFESSIONAL
Shadowrunners [Yes, I know that there are many Sr groups that don't fit
this mold, but the military mentality, even a really loose one like
mine, tends to gravitate towards order of regimentation, as opposed to
the chaotic decisionmaking evidenced by your typical 'amateur' Shadowrun
team.].
If the Tir mage is also a former spook, works just as well. Not all
spec forces teams love and share a 'warm, fuzzy feeling' for each other,
BUT most are professional enough to work together to get the job done.
And who knows, after working with their opposite numbers for awhile,
they may just develop a grudging respect for one another. This would go
a long way to laying down more lasting links between the trio, than to
simply lump them all together as types that should get along and say,
you're a team.
Military, and spec forces in particular, are trained in a certain
discipline that most amateur shadowrunners have no wish to emulate.
[Look at Argent from Nigel Findley's books. He ran a team of
Shadowrunners that was almost totally composed of ex-military, and they
functioned like a well oiled machine. I'd say more, but then I'd need
spoilers :-].
You seem to think that anyone who can come up with a interesting
and CONVINCING storyline, OTHER than you, why these three should hang
together is full of BS! Now, if THAT isn't full of hubris, and a good
helping Mad Cow Kaka, I don't know what is! As a GM, you're supposed to
HELP the players find a reason to stick together. It's hard, and it
doesn't always work out, but that doesn't mean you aren't supposed to
try. And don't give me the reason that you don't have the time. I'm
pretty sure I'm a GOOD deal older than you are, and if anyone doesn't
have time to waste on foolishness, it's me.
Only a civilian would make an assumption like that these three
would have no reason to stick together as BS! [And NO, I'm NOT bashing
civilians; I'm one right now, and enjoy it quite fine, thank you!] I
suggest you take a look at the Shadowrun Military Page, and talk to a
few of those guys over there, so's you get a better idea what you're
meandering about.
Or, maybe I'm totally wrong, and they'll vindicate you. Who
knows...


Kohl

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