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From: Bull <chaos@*****.COM>
Subject: Re: Dark Conspiracy (Was - Re: FASA Being Sold? Semi-OT?)
Date: Fri, 18 Jul 1997 17:16:36 -0400
At 02:22 AM 7/17/97 -0600, Caun Haskins wrote these timeless words:
>I read the Hobbit and The Lord of the Rings (not the next two though,
>school kicked in and never got back to them) but I figured that most
>races were already conceived when Tolken wrote his masterpieces, weren't
>they the based on mythology? I personally never doubted in them (I was
>grown up on Fantasy) He does have a great influence over all Fantasy
>though, you're right, Thanks J. R.R. Tolken, (RIP) what about AD&D in SR
>I can't spot anything except they started RPG as Tolken apparently
>started the Fantasy genre. That all the connection?
>
Tolkien based SOME of his stuff on various Mythologies, but some ideas were
his and his alone.

The Elves, for example. before Tolkien, elevs were tiny pixie like beings
with lots of magic. I can't recall a single fable or myth that had human
sized Elevs. Tolkien was the first to make Elves what they're become today
in fantasy fiction adn RPG's. Tall people, usually as part of a normal
"race" of beings with their own govedrnment and such.

Troll's are another example. While SR trolls aren't really much like
Tolkiens Trolls, They're much closer to tolkaien's than AD&D's. AD&D Trolls
were usually mostly mindless, tall skinny regenerating things. Tolkiens
were Huge 10 foot tall beasties with minimal intelligence. However, they
DID turn to stone in daylight, so...

Dwarves are dwarves. They haven't really changed much, though in some of
the old fables, they were more like eveil little burrowing gnomes than thw
Race of Dwarves were so familiar with in Fantasy today.

Orks... Well... SR is probably the only game I know of where Orks are a
normal, viable race. AD&D came close with it's half orcs, but... That's
still not the same... And Orcs in Tolkien were pretty much the same as in
AD&D: Evil green beasties... They were also called Goblins in Tolkiens
books...

Most of the fantasy aspect of SR comes from tolkien, while the futuristic
stuff comes partly from Cyberpunk and the whole Cyberpunk Genre. It's an
interesting blend, and makes SR very unique...:]

Bull
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