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From: Avenger <Avenger@*******.DEMON.CO.UK>
Subject: Re: Dark Conspiracy (Was - Re: FASA Being Sold? Semi-OT?)
Date: Sun, 20 Jul 1997 15:17:34 +0100
In article <33CF71FE.97A178DF@*********.com>, Caun Haskins
<caun@*********.COM> rambled on endlessly about Dark Conspiracy (Was -
Re: FASA Being Sold? Semi-OT?)
>Wow, wait a minuit, are you telling me that at one time orks and goblins
>were thought of as the same thing!! I always thought of them as totaly
>diferent races, they are adn will always be in my head totaly different.

By the Tolkien mythology, which seems a strong influence in the fantasy
genre, orks are a race derived from Elves. They are in fact Sauron's
corruption created from his desire to become like the creator. He
used/uses Elves to create the Orks. Orks, however are more than capable
of breeding, and hence you get variations on the theme.

The Uruk Hai, were to all intents and pruposes the genetic masterpiece
of the Ork race, powerful, tough, intelligent and mean as hell. A true
opponent to the Elven nations.

>(I can't see the goblins in anybody's books the same as any oof my SR
>characters, That would just spoil my day!) Well I gues The Fantasy gener
>is still under construction, where will it go next? and we learn
>somthing new every day on the ShadowRN discusion group!

AD&D took Goblins and turned them into what were effectively
miniaturised Orks. However, they still ranked them into the "Giantish"
sub-class (IIRC)

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