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>So we have some who say Scotland, and I know some Scots who think It's
>more Irish - I just say thier Celts!
The show is supposed to be based in Ireland, c500 AD (and Spike: this is
a perfectly valid time period for the show). It is filmed in Australia
(apparently the producers or director or somebody decided that the
Emerald Isle wasn't quite, well, Irish enough:). BTW, the historical
Arthur is based in about the same time period (give or take) was supposed
to be a Celt (granted, he was on the other island...)
--
-Canthros
I had rather believe all the fables in the legends and the Talmud
and the Alcoran, than that this universal frame is without a mind.
--Francis Bacon
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Date: Fri, 1 Aug 1997 08:23:26 +1000
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From: Lady Jestyr <jestyr@*******.DIALIX.COM.AU>
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> > Which leads to the question: who the hell's going to PLAY her? Who could
> > get that Harly quality right?
>
> Hey..How about Sandra Bullock??
*sigh* I hope you're joking. :)
Lady Jestyr
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Date: Thu, 31 Jul 1997 18:25:52 -0400
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At 07:57 AM 8/1/97 +1000, Lady Jestyr wrote these timeless words:
>> She's OK for the occasional 30 minute episode, but she needs The Joker to
>> bounce off for a full film, I think....
>
>Which leads to the question: who the hell's going to PLAY her? Who could
>get that Harly quality right?
>
I don;t quite remember off hand, though I did hear a name... For some
strange reason madonna comes to mind (And scares the hell out of me...:]
Bull
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> > Hey..How about Sandra Bullock??
>
> *sigh* I hope you're joking. :)
Not at all..Think about it..Harly is kinda a cute character..And It
is about time SB played a bad guy..I think she could pull it off
quite well..besides she is deffinitely no stranger to the action
movie biz..and should be up for any of the more demanding stuff she
might be required to do..
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"Rock Steady"
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Lord, Grant Me The Serenity To Accept The Things I Cannot Change,
The Courage To Change The Things I Can,
And The Wisdom To Hide The Bodies Of Those People I Had To Kill
Because They Pissed Me Off.
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> >Which leads to the question: who the hell's going to PLAY her? Who could
> >get that Harly quality right?
> >
>>..... strange reason madonna comes to mind (And scares the hell out of me...:]
Hmmm..I don't know..she might be able to pull it off..although she
may be getting a bit too old for the part.. But I guess that all
depends of how they approach the character...And who does the
makeup..
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"Rock Steady"
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Lord, Grant Me The Serenity To Accept The Things I Cannot Change,
The Courage To Change The Things I Can,
And The Wisdom To Hide The Bodies Of Those People I Had To Kill
Because They Pissed Me Off.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ShadowRunner's Serenity Prayer
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Date: Thu, 31 Jul 1997 18:41:37 EDT
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From: John E Pederson <lobo1@****.COM>
Subject: Re: Little Green Men
On Thu, 31 Jul 1997 17:38:33 -0400 Bull <chaos@*****.COM> writes:
<snippers>
>>Ummm...I think Area 51 (which is on Groom Lake in Nevada, I believe)
>>would be in the NAN.
>>
>You know the location of Area 51? Wow...;]
>
>Isn;t it supposed to not exist at all?
Officially, it might not exist even now. Reality-wise, it does exist.
They did/do a lot the so-called 'black' projects (the ones we're not
supposed to know about:). Former black projects include the F-117A
Nighthawk fighter-bomber (aka the Wobbly Goblin). Satellite pictures of
the place exist, but you won't find it (or Groom Lake, for that matter)
on any US govt map available to the public (unless its rather old). But,
as I said, people have been out there (it's out near Las Vegas or
something), and they couldn't really hide it from foreign or domestic
satellites. All this from an issue of Popular Mechanics from a few years
ago, countless UFO shows and multiple episodes of Discovery's Wings
program:)
>>Anther interesting site to think about:
>>
>>Wright-Patterson Air Force Base (Frag, it's in Ohio somewhere, can't
>>remember which city), Hangar 18 or 19 there is supposed to contain
>alien
>>bodies.
>>
>Dayton, Ohio.
>
>Nellis Airforce Base, which is in.... Ummm... I can;t remember...
>Is
>also a sight for Hanger 13, another name for Area 51/Hanger 18. :]
>there's
>a few of them there sites floating around...:]
Of course. That's the great thing about rumors:) Besides, it's kinda hard
to store 3 alien bodies (presumably preserved/frozen/whatever), and the
shattered/burned remains of a spaceship:) and it's easier to spread out
the resources at several sites than it is to shuttle the scientists from
all over to look at them:)
--
-Canthros
I had rather believe all the fables in the legends and the Talmud
and the Alcoran, than that this universal frame is without a mind.
--Francis Bacon
http://members.aol.com/canthros1
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Date: Thu, 31 Jul 1997 18:58:22 -0500
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From: "Wendy Wanders, Subject 117"
<KGGEWEHR@******.ACS.MUOHIO.EDU>
Subject: Re: Vorpal Monowhip
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> Anyone done up a hit location chart for a monowhip ala A_&_'s Vorpal Sword,
> or Sword of Sharpness?
> How about house rules for lopping off limbs?
Umm, look at it this way, Monowhip is a dangerous weapon, look at its Reach and
damage base. If it does a Deadly weapon, the rules already account for
organ/limb damage. If it doesn't, figure it's a pretty glancing hit, only
nicked an arm or something. SR's damage system is vague, if you add things
like this, you have to remove the abstraction and treat *all* weapons like you
suggest doing for the Monowhip.
losthalo
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Date: Thu, 31 Jul 1997 19:01:12 -0500
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From: "Wendy Wanders, Subject 117"
<KGGEWEHR@******.ACS.MUOHIO.EDU>
Subject: Re: Little Green Men
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You wrote:
> Wright-Patterson Air Force Base (Frag, it's in Ohio somewhere, can't
> remember which city), Hangar 18 or 19 there is supposed to contain alien
> bodies.
It's in Dayton, and I think you're mistaken about Hangar 18 supposedly being
there. *shrug* Been to the Air Force Museum there, but it was a loooong time
ago. :)
losthalo
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Date: Thu, 31 Jul 1997 19:04:07 -0500
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From: "Wendy Wanders, Subject 117"
<KGGEWEHR@******.ACS.MUOHIO.EDU>
Subject: Re: Force Points for Initiation (was: The Chromium Mage)
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You wrote:
> On Initiates: Who cares how common they are, when the majority of the runner
> teams out there effectively doubles the percentage of magicians in the
> general populace. Initiates are supposed to be rare, yes. Magicians in
> general are supposed to be just as rare in the general populace. How many
> teams have two mages?
A team of runners in no way represents the magically-active population
statistics, any more than a corporate structure does. Magically active people
tend to be certain lines of work, and if you don't like sitting astral security
for a corp, SRing is one popular choice. And groups I played with tended to
have two mages only if the group was large.
losthalo
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Date: Thu, 31 Jul 1997 19:02:32 -0400
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From: George Metz <W0lfstar@***.COM>
Subject: Re: Little Green Men
In a message dated 97-07-31 18:43:38 EDT, you write:
> Officially, it might not exist even now. Reality-wise, it does exist.
> They did/do a lot the so-called 'black' projects (the ones we're not
> supposed to know about:). Former black projects include the F-117A
> Nighthawk fighter-bomber (aka the Wobbly Goblin). Satellite pictures of
> the place exist, but you won't find it (or Groom Lake, for that matter)
> on any US govt map available to the public (unless its rather old). But,
> as I said, people have been out there (it's out near Las Vegas or
> something), and they couldn't really hide it from foreign or domestic
> satellites. All this from an issue of Popular Mechanics from a few years
> ago, countless UFO shows and multiple episodes of Discovery's Wings
> program:)
Yeah, it's also called Dreamland by the USAF's best pilots, because that's
where their dreams come true - fly the hottest jets ever, and a major pay
raise to boot! At least, that's the rumor. As for Nellis AFB, scrap that,
Groom Lake's about a half hour by chopper from Nellis, and the USAF would
want more space between sites.
Wolfstar
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Date: Thu, 31 Jul 1997 18:37:59 -0500
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At 09:18 PM 7/31/97 +0100, you wrote:
>>Then Spike, no spoilers about ReBoot? Ok?
>I've really not spoiled much. I've just said how good it is without letting
>any of the plot slip....
>(At least, when I did put a spoiler for the opening sequence in two weeks
>ago, I included spoiler space....)
How about we take this whole Bab5 thing to the Bab5 mailing list where it
belongs? It's done it's time here... moving on would be appreciated...
>>Calm down, have some dip.
>Errrr.... What's in the dip?
Don't ask, just eat... I mean, what's the fun in knowing?
--
Bob Ooton
topcat@***.net
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Date: Thu, 31 Jul 1997 22:53:23 +0100
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From: "Paul J. Adam" <shadowrn@********.DEMON.CO.UK>
Subject: Re: Little Green Men
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In message <3.0.16.19970731140157.081f3fba@*****.com>, Bull
<chaos@*****.COM> writes
>At 01:46 PM 7/31/97 EDT, John E Pederson wrote these timeless words:
>>Ummm...I think Area 51 (which is on Groom Lake in Nevada, I believe)
>>would be in the NAN.
>>
>You know the location of Area 51? Wow...;]
>
>Isn;t it supposed to not exist at all?
Area 51 is marked on standard maps (I think my Nellis range map from
Falcon 3.0 had Area 51 shown, it certainly showed Groom Lake).
What happens there is the secret...
>>Wright-Patterson Air Force Base (Frag, it's in Ohio somewhere, can't
>>remember which city), Hangar 18 or 19 there is supposed to contain alien
>>bodies.
>>
>Dayton, Ohio.
Site of the peace talks that put at least a temporary lid on the war in
the former Yugoslavia, so I doubt the alien remains are still there :)
>Nellis Airforce Base, which is in.... Ummm... I can;t remember... Is
>also a sight for Hanger 13, another name for Area 51/Hanger 18. :] there's
>a few of them there sites floating around...:]
Nellis is on the outskirts of Las Vegas, near the dreaded Groom Lake and
suchlike.
--
There are four kinds of homicide: felonious, excusable, justifiable and
praiseworthy...
Paul J. Adam paul@********.demon.co.uk
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Date: Fri, 1 Aug 1997 02:32:32 +0000
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From: Fade <runefo@***.UIO.NO>
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Subject: Re: Invisibility spells revisited (was Re: [SR3] Area Spells)
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> Spike said on 12:05/30 Jul 97...
>
> > Actually, I think the reason Thermographic works is because it's not looking
> > for reflected light (which the invisibility spell bends) but emitted light,
> > as in body heat.....
>
> However, that is speculation (as, admittedly, is my reasoning for why UV
> vision wouldn't be affected by invisibility spells) since SR doesn't
> mention the actual "real"-world mechanics behind the spell. Does it bend
> light, as is suggested in many places, or does it make people take no
> notice of the target?
>
> Both have their pros and cons.
>
> Bends Light Theory (BLT)
> Pro: provides a good reason for why others are able to see "through" the
> spell's subject from all angles. For the physical version of the spell, it
> also explains why cameras don't register the subject.
> Con: the subject wouldn't be able to see, since light is bent around
> him/her/it and so will not reach his/her/its eyes or other viewing
> devices. Also it doesn't explain why IR light (body heat) isn't bent
> around the target, except by using the explanation that only reflected
> light is affected, not light given off by the subject.
>
> Take No Notice Theory (TNNT)
> Pro: this allows the subject to see while under influence from the spell.
> Con: the Disregard spell (in Awakenings) specifically states this is how
> that spell works; it makes little sense if Invisibility does the same
> thing. It also doesn't explain why thermographic vision isn't affected,
> nor why cameras don't spot the subject of physical invisibility spells.
>
Transparent Theory (TT)
Pro: The character can see while under influence from the spell, and
also explains why IR can see the character, since he is only
transparent to normal light. (Spell description).
Con: How is (s)he seen by the perception test? Neither does it
explain well why (s)he is visible to cameras but not people.
Actually, the # of successes would regulate how well the transparency
works.. a few means (s)he's somewhat opaque (But blends in with the
background), while a lot menas (s)he's well nigh totally invisible.
(Giving the TN's to spot the character.. if the char's nearly totally
invisible (say 6 successes) the character is *VERY* hard to spot...
which seems reasonable to me.).
(Actually, since it's a mana spell, it only works in regard to
people. Selective transparency is a bit hard to swallow unless you
consider that magic isn't science, it's.. magic. It works under
strict laws but those laws aren't those of physical science. (You can
tell I prefer Hermetic mages, right? :)
--
Fade
And the Prince of Lies said:
"To reign is worth ambition, though in Hell:
Better to reign in hell than to serve in heaven."
-John Milton, Paradise Lost
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Date: Thu, 31 Jul 1997 19:33:09 -0500
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From: Joshua T Brown <spamquat@****.COM>
Subject: Re: Bandwagoneering...
On Thu, 31 Jul 1997 13:35:46 +1000 Lady Jestyr
<jestyr@*******.DIALIX.COM.AU> writes:
>Just thought I'd leap on the bandwagon. I have just downloaded and
>installed ICQ, so if anyone feels like dropping me a line my UIN is
>2439321. :)
>
Woo Hoo!
Mine is 2112514 .....
I loves me that ICQ.... <smirk>
My favorite feature is the ability to be paged when I'm online by
people....
L8r....
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Date: Thu, 31 Jul 1997 20:40:45 -0400
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From: "J. Keith Henry" <Ereskanti@***.COM>
Subject: Re: Full of Life
In a message dated 97-07-31 03:06:50 EDT, z-i-m@****.COM (Tim Cooper) writes:
>
> eh? Where'd that come from? AFAIK the only thing that maintains an
> astral presence AFTER leaving *physical* contact with the magician who
> activated it is a spell lock, and if you remove it from who ever it was
> activated on, it too goes dormant.
>
> Did I miss some pages in SR2, the Grimmoire, or Awakenings.... or are you
> just quoting a house rule?
>
> ~Tim
>
Last I Knew, it was an SR rule, but now I can't find the ruling itself (so
kick me). However, the same holds true for sustaining spells so maybe I had
the two mixed up. However, sustaining a short-lived construct vs. a more
sturdy one might make things interesting.
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Date: Thu, 31 Jul 1997 20:44:48 -0500
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From: "Wendy Wanders, Subject 117"
<KGGEWEHR@******.ACS.MUOHIO.EDU>
Subject: Re: Invisibility spells revisited (was Re: [SR3] Area Spells)
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> > > Actually, I think the reason Thermographic works is because it's not
looking
> > > for reflected light (which the invisibility spell bends) but emitted light,
> > > as in body heat.....
To your eye or a receiver, there is no difference between 'emitted' and
'reflected' light. It's light.
losthalo
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Date: Fri, 1 Aug 1997 02:44:49 +0000
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From: Fade <runefo@***.UIO.NO>
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Subject: The Mad Terminator Run Idea... ?
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I had this idea, I think it's kinda interesting but I do not know
quite how to use it. So, I let it loose on *YOU* !!
Okay, Ares corp (or some other) is well aware that a lot of
governments, UCAS in particular, is extremely conservative of their
manpower; in battle they prefer to sacrifice machines rather than
men. So they figure there's a market for humanoid hunter killer
robots. Okay. And they assign a small team to check on wether it's
feasible. Not much further down the line they make one. It's a
hellacious combat machine monster which looks quite human, and in
addition is capable of moving through society without arousing too
much suspicion (although stands out a little. It's designed to look
intimidating as hell.. they choose the looks of a certain 90's actor
as suitable. *cough* :). Since a machine does not have much social
intelligence they include an internal voice stress analyzer to check
if whoever's speaking is telling the truth or not. In the lab it
works fine. If someone lies to it, it starts interrogating them..
brutally.
Then they send it on a field trip.
There's a fatal flaw. The stress analysis device is too sensitive;
suitable for a controlled lab experiment but *NOT* a street trial.
Anyone that speaks to it is somewhat stressed, because of its
intimidating looks and inhuman 'feel'. So it registers that everyone
that speaks to it lies, and shall be interrogated.. brutally. As it
recognizes that the less brutal approaches does not divulge the
location of the target, it becomes more and more brutal; ripping
limbs off and so on.
Now, if the runners were supposed to babysit it through the job, if
they're hired to stop this lumbering behemoth.. or STEAL it... or
whatever.... any suggestions?
--
Fade
And the Prince of Lies said:
"To reign is worth ambition, though in Hell:
Better to reign in hell than to serve in heaven."
-John Milton, Paradise Lost
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Date: Thu, 31 Jul 1997 20:53:11 -0400
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From: "J. Keith Henry" <Ereskanti@***.COM>
Subject: Re: Full of Life (Cooling Down)
In a message dated 97-07-31 11:53:49 EDT, dbuehrer@****.ORG (David Buehrer)
writes:
> <picks up crowbar and pries his foot out of his mouth>
Keith takes crowbar from David's hands before it reaches the mouth thingy...
"You don't know where that has been ... Granite could have been using to
clean his teeth or something..."
> sorry about that. i'm in kind of a shity mood (work related) and you
> became the target of my frustrations. i hope you will accept my
> humble apology. and my apology extends to the members of this list
> as well.
That actually didn't need much of an apology IMHO, but I thank you
personally.
> I also want to thank you for replying to my BS post in a calm
> rational manner.
ME?!?!? CALM?!?!?!? RATIONAL?!?!?!?!
(whisper voice, just don't tell Spike, he thinks I'm totally whacked
anyway...)
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Date: Thu, 31 Jul 1997 20:57:48 -0400
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From: George Metz <W0lfstar@***.COM>
Subject: Re: Vorpal Monowhip
In a message dated 97-07-31 20:39:20 EDT, you write:
> One thing that still bugs me is that there's no limb loss chart for using a
> monowhip in SR.
>
> Every work of fiction that features these nasty weapons talks about how it
> just slices people into sections.
> However in SR, all you get to do is minor wounds.
>
> Anyone done up a hit location chart for a monowhip ala A_&_'s Vorpal
Sword,
> or Sword of Sharpness?
I would think that you could use a normal hit location chart(There's one
buried somewhere on the Shadowrun Archive somewhere, it's a .bmp file), and
you can get pretty descriptive from there.
Wolfstar
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Date: Thu, 31 Jul 1997 20:59:51 -0400
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From: George Metz <W0lfstar@***.COM>
Subject: Re: [OT] Cartoons (Was Re: Hallucinogens in SR)
In a message dated 97-07-31 20:42:47 EDT, you write:
> Does anybody else out there remember Tranzor Z?
Bull, you just set off so many recognition bells in my head that I'm deaf,
but I can't remember anything else! Brief me? PLEASE? =)
Wolfstar
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Date: Thu, 31 Jul 1997 21:05:19 -0400
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From: George Metz <W0lfstar@***.COM>
Subject: Re: Little Green Men
In a message dated 97-07-31 20:57:18 EDT, you write:
> Ummm...I think Area 51 (which is on Groom Lake in Nevada, I believe)
> would be in the NAN.
Yeah, the Ute Nation to be precise. Could always provide an interesting
diversion for anyone wishing to visit Las Vega - or is that Vegas?(Sorry, bad
Contact pun, seemed appropriate at the time).
Wolfstar
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Date: Thu, 31 Jul 1997 20:11:15 -0500
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From: Doc <wacansler@*******.EDU>
Subject: Re: Vorpal Monowhip
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On Thu, 31 Jul 1997, George Metz wrote:
> In a message dated 97-07-31 20:39:20 EDT, you write:
>
> > One thing that still bugs me is that there's no limb loss chart for using a
> > monowhip in SR.
> >
> > Every work of fiction that features these nasty weapons talks about how it
> > just slices people into sections.
> > However in SR, all you get to do is minor wounds.
> >
> > Anyone done up a hit location chart for a monowhip ala A_&_'s Vorpal
> Sword,
> > or Sword of Sharpness?
>
> I would think that you could use a normal hit location chart(There's one
> buried somewhere on the Shadowrun Archive somewhere, it's a .bmp file), and
> you can get pretty descriptive from there.
>
> Wolfstar
>
what are the full stats for the vorpal monowhip???
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Date: Thu, 31 Jul 1997 21:09:59 -0400
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From: Bull <chaos@*****.COM>
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At 08:59 PM 7/31/97 -0400, George Metz wrote these timeless words:
>In a message dated 97-07-31 20:42:47 EDT, you write:
>
>> Does anybody else out there remember Tranzor Z?
>
> Bull, you just set off so many recognition bells in my head that I'm deaf,
>but I can't remember anything else! Brief me? PLEASE? =)
>
I didn't mention this one, but... Guess what? i remember this one as well
(Although only vaguely. It wasn't shown long around here.)
There were three giant robot driving by the three "heroes" of the story.
The main guy, Tranzor Z (I think), would shoot it's fists out.
There was also a woman, the "Princess" (I think) and a fat guy, and they
both had giant robots that looked just like them (The fat guys robot was
fat, and the woman had a "female" robot that had breasts...:)). I don;t
remember much e;se, but for some strange reason I seem to recall the female
robot firing "Breast missile" from her chest, but... That might be just a
delusion (Hey, I was in Junior HigH! The mind wanders... A LOT :)).
Bull
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Date: Thu, 31 Jul 1997 21:33:00 EDT
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From: John E Pederson <lobo1@****.COM>
Subject: Re: Vorpal Monowhip
On Thu, 31 Jul 1997 20:11:15 -0500 Doc <wacansler@*******.EDU> writes:
>what are the full stats for the vorpal monowhip???
There are none. "Vorpal Monowhip" just happened to be the title Steve
Tinner chose for the message, as it dealt with SR's monowhip and the
Vorpal blade from AD&D.
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Date: Thu, 31 Jul 1997 21:33:00 EDT
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From: John E Pederson <lobo1@****.COM>
Subject: Re: Little Green Men
On Thu, 31 Jul 1997 19:01:12 -0500 "Wendy Wanders, Subject 117"
<KGGEWEHR@******.ACS.MUOHIO.EDU> writes:
<<It's in Dayton, and I think you're mistaken about Hangar 18 supposedly
being there.>>
No, that much I'm pretty sure about. It's not something they advertise:)
<<*shrug* Been to the Air Force Museum there, but it was a loooong time
ago. :)>>
Ditto. I think I was last there sometime in the Cub Scouts...I remember
being able to walk around a B-1 at the time:) Also got to see the only
remaining Valkyrie jet (weird-looking plane if I ever saw one), but it's
been a very long time.
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Date: Thu, 31 Jul 1997 21:37:22 -0400
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>There were three giant robot driving by the three "heroes" of the story.
>The main guy, Tranzor Z (I think), would shoot it's fists out.
Nope he had finger tip missles.
>There was also a woman, the "Princess" (I think) and a fat guy, and they
>both had giant robots that looked just like them (The fat guys robot was
>fat, and the woman had a "female" robot that had breasts...:)).
I believe that you be Aurora and the Bobobot.
> I don;t
>remember much e;se, but for some strange reason I seem to recall the female
>robot firing "Breast missile" from her chest, but... That might be just a
>delusion (Hey, I was in Junior HigH! The mind wanders... A LOT :)).
They did fire breast missles. It was also mixed with scenes from the Great
Maznga(sp!) cartoon. I always wanted to catch that. But it never aired.
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Date: Fri, 1 Aug 1997 03:37:35 +0000
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From: Fade <runefo@***.UIO.NO>
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Subject: Re: [OT] Cartoons (Was Re: Hallucinogens in SR)
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> > Other Japanese favourites include Ronan Warrors (Is that still on? I no
> > longer have cable), 3x3 Eyes (Yakamo!) some of Rama 1/2, Battle Angel,
3x3 Eyes is ok... I like the zombie kid.. Battle Angel is good too.
Wicked city is too gross.
AKIRA! Shame on you for forgetting... :)
> 'Snot fair... there's more episodes of Sazan Eyes (3x3 Eyes) out, a
> whole new series... and I can't find them anywhere. :(
What? More than 1-5? Damn.. it's not here either.
How's Orguss 2? Seen it?
(The teaser quote:
"War! I love it. Death, destruction and easy money... "
)
And Patlabot? It's supposed to be one of the major recent projects...
> > the original Sailor Moon (if dic ever brings that back, thet'd better
> > not chop it to bits again!), Mai, Psykic Girl (manga, but still cool)
> > and the anime Street Fighter movie (MUCH better then the one with Jean-
> > Claude)
None of the networks over here send anime at all, damn them. So I
haven't seen any of the televised series.. :( I only see what tapes I
can buy from the local importers.
> Absolutely! And let's not forgetNinja Scroll, which is very Street
> Fighter-y to my mind.
It's great. Lots of good fight scenes and interesting characters.
'Slightly' bloody, though.
> Or anything else by Shirow, apart from Gunm (B.A.
> Alita) - I've heard there's an anime of Appleseed - I want!
I've heard it's really bad. Dominion tank police as well, although it
has its good parts. (Anna & Uni). (The new series - Dominion (No
more conflict) is *REALLY* good..(Comic book only). I almost laughed
to death... Ghost in the Shell, too, of course, both the Anime and
Manga, is very good. I prefer the comic book, though. ("Shit it ain't
even a Tomiland. Waste of goddamn effort."... I like Batou.). Black
Magic is also by Shirow, IIRC. It's supposed to be good, but I
haven't seen it.
> Oh... and
> the all time favourite - Gatchaman. :) (AKA Battle of the Planets, when
> twas in its US incarnation. Japanese version's much better though.)
Mhm.. never seen it. Guess I oughta.
BTW the screenplay version of Crying Freeman's cool. It's got a
*HUGE* load of mood.. unrealistic, strange, but cool... and more than
a little shadowrunnery.
I've wondered about Angel Cop, but as long as each tape lasts 25
minutes and costs 40 dollars (equivalent)... I pass.
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Date: Thu, 31 Jul 1997 22:04:55 -0400
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From: Duncan McNeill-Burton <Dreadnaut1@***.COM>
Subject: Re: [OT] Cartoons (Was Re: Hallucinogens in SR)
In a message dated 97-07-31 20:42:56 EDT, you write:
> >>>>> Bull didst say unto the aether thusly:
>
> # Yo Joe!
>
> # <grin>
>
> BobDammit Bull, Now I've got the theme song running through my
head!!
> !
> ARGGH!!
> "GI JOE (He's a real american hero)"
>
> Does anybody else out there remember Tranzor Z?
>
Yup...couldn't tell you about it to save my life, but the name rings a
bell...
Was I the only Spiral Zone fan?
Later-
Duncan
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Date: Thu, 31 Jul 1997 22:37:12 -0400
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The Spaceman once dared to write,
>>>>> Bull didst say unto the aether thusly:
>
># Yo Joe!
>
># <grin>
>
> BobDammit Bull, Now I've got the theme song running through my
>head!!!
> ARGGH!!
> "GI JOE (He's a real american hero)"
And knowing is half th battle.
> Does anybody else out there remember Tranzor Z?
Willingly or not? B>]#
- MC@** -
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Date: Thu, 31 Jul 1997 22:10:15 +1000
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> Which leads to the question: who the hell's going to PLAY her? Who could
> get that Harly quality right?
>
> Lady Jestyr
>
How about the actress who does the voice of Harly? It is my
understanding that they did the actual modeling for her based on her
body-type/face. IMO the perfect choice since she can also act.
Pilgrim
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Date: Thu, 31 Jul 1997 21:02:49 -0600
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From: Adam J <fro@***.AB.CA>
Subject: Re: Greetings
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At 13:55 7/31/97 -0400, you wrote:
> Heh. That'd be a great idea. Anyone wanna tell "us newbies" where we can
get
>the ShadowRN FAQ since the link from the itribe.net site is non-functional?
>Actually, the only ones that were functioning was the NERPS link, and the
>ShadowTK FAQ....
Address in sig file.
The mini-FAQ is due to hit the list tommorrow.
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Date: Thu, 31 Jul 1997 20:13:14 -0700
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From: The Spaceman <spaced@*.WASHINGTON.EDU>
Subject: Re: [OT] Cartoons (Was Re: Hallucinogens in SR)
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>>>>> Bull didst say unto the aether thusly:
# robot firing "Breast missile" from her chest, but... That might be just a
# delusion (Hey, I was in Junior HigH! The mind wanders... A LOT :)).
That's about all I remember from it, that Aphrodite A (the woman's
robot) had the Breasts-O-Death(TM). Something like that will scar a man for
life..
ObSR: New wrinkle on Maria Mercurial.... ATC didn't spend that much money on
cyber just for a skelecatary, perhaps the BTLs were grooming her for an
assassin's life later. Secret weapon: Tranzor Z's Breasts-O-Death......
ObSortaSR: For those into Battletech as well, perhaps you can give me some
ideas. My friends and I are starting a Solaris Campaign, and the MechWarrior
rules aren't up to our standards. So we're using SR. No magic/metas, but
the cyber presents an interesting prospect. Any ideas on integrating things
like VCRs?
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Date: Thu, 31 Jul 1997 23:22:19 -0400
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Duncan McNeill-Burton once dared to write,
>Was I the only Spiral Zone fan?
Well I remember the highly detailed Japanese toys from it and the
later American ones which were a pale imitation.
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more so and they were guarded very closely. To protect themselves, they
answered to another name, because if another discovered their real name,
it could be used against them.
History repeats itself.
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Date: Thu, 31 Jul 1997 23:50:00 EDT
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From: John E Pederson <lobo1@****.COM>
Subject: Re: Hallucinogens in SR)
On Thu, 31 Jul 1997 22:04:55 -0400 Duncan McNeill-Burton
<Dreadnaut1@***.COM> writes:
<snip since I never even heard of Tranzor Z>
>Was I the only Spiral Zone fan?
Nope, I remember a little of the show (saw maybe two or three episodes)
from back whenever (it's been at least 7-8 years, probably more like 9),
they didn't actually broadcast around here, I watched it on channel 9 out
of Chicago, which we get on cable in this area. I remember it was a bit .
. . odd.
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and the Alcoran, than that this universal frame is without a mind.
--Francis Bacon
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