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From: Sascha Pabst <Sascha.Pabst@**********.UNI-OLDENBURG.DE>
Subject: Re: Attributes
Date: Tue, 9 Dec 1997 12:19:01 +0000
On 9 Dec 97 at 12:10, Adam Treloar wrote:
> On Mon, 8 Dec 1997, Justin Pinnow wrote:
[snip Justin's simple, yet genius system]

> Fine, difference of opinion on the physical stats... What, then, about,
> say intelligence? CAn someone go from being dumb as a rock (ie 1) to a
> super-genius? (9?) It depends on your view, again, I suppose, but I tend
> to think that some people just don't have the smarts to do some things.
As I suggested this system to my gaming group, I had to do some
calculations. Note I added an *2 multiplier when stat was higher then
racial maximum.

Also: Character, human, starts STR 2, wants to raise STR to 8.
old System new System
Advance Cost Advance Cost
2 -> 3 3 2 -> 3 3
3 -> 4 4 2 -> 3 6
4 -> 5 5 4 -> 5 15
5 -> 6 6 5 -> 6 6 * 4 = 24
6 -> 7* 14 6 -> 7* 35 * 2 = 70 (ups)
7*-> 8* 16 7*-> 8* 48 * 2 = 96
---- ------------
48 214

with starting STR 4:
old System new System
Advance Cost Advance Cost
4 -> 5 5 4 -> 5 5 * 1 = 5
5 -> 6 6 5 -> 6 6 * 2 = 12
6 -> 7* 14 6 -> 7* 7 * 2 * 2 = 28
7*-> 8* 16 7*-> 8* 8 * 3 * 2 = 48
----- -----
41 93

with starting STR 6
old System new System
Advance Cost Advance Cost
6 -> 7* 14 6 -> 7* 7 * 1 * 2 = 14
7*-> 8* 16 7*-> 8* 8 * 2 * 2 = 32
----- -----
30 46

You see, the costs for raising an attribute more then two or three
times get ridiculous high, thus preventing any but the most determined
chars to raise that high. And yes, I would allow a character who spend
2 + 6 + 12 + 20 + 30 + 84 + 112 + 144 Karma Points (410) to do the
raise. Plus, you are wrong - high Intelligence doesn't make you a
super-genius. Skills make you genius, while the Attribute
"Intelligence" seems to be a misnomer, as it's mostly used for
perception tests, or to determine how many locks a shaman can have
activated...

Sascha
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