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From: losthalo <losthalo@********.COM>
Subject: Re: Prison in Shadowrun
Date: Wed, 10 Dec 1997 00:33:30 -0500
At 05:14 AM 12/10/97 GMT, you wrote:

>If a corp ran a prison, it could not execute its prisoners. This would be
>the decision of a country's justice system.

Except regarding crimes on extraterritorial corp property, which do not
fall under a nation's laws, by definition. Corps are responsible for
trying and carrying out sentences for crimes within their territory if they
claim extraterritoriality (which many do).

>Besides, prisons couldn't hope to become profitable. It currently costs
>between $20,000 and $50,000 to incarcerate each prisoner (housing, food,
>guards, administration, etc.). Things would have to change "big-time" in
>order to make a similar profit per prisoner.

Why do you think that a corp-run prison would be so expensive? No frills,
no rights for prisoners, just basic nutrition, minimal health care, and
they are required to *work*, raising their own food and the like. No
television or trid, no radio, no library, no annoying the administration
unless you want your head cracked open and your sentence lengthened...

>How I see prisons in Shadowrun is very similar to John Carpenter's "Escape
>from New York". For Seattle, a major "prison" could be located on one
of
>the larger islands in Puget Sound-- or even the bottom tip of Vancouver
>Island (which would be better isolated by a greater expanse of water).
>Drop in your prisoners and let them fend for themselves. If they produce a
>surplus crop or any exportable goods, they can trade them for the things
>that they need (within reason, of course-- no man-portable surface-to-air
>missiles :) It also makes sending your framed (or overly violent) PCs to
>prison an adventure in itself.

Interesting, although you are talking pretty close to a death sentence for
most people so sentenced. Not good for PR, especially if you're talking
about the UCAS gov't, with its roots in U.S. constitutional law.

>If the Mafia/Yakusa/Triads/Seoulpa still exist, you can bet that witness
>protection/relocation programs do too :)

Yeah, and I'll betcha dollars to doughnuts the corps run their own
versions, too, in 2050.

losthalo

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