From:	"Simon.M" <Simon.M@**********.COM>
Subject:	Re: Was that a Club? (Re: Armor)
Date:	Wed, 10 Dec 1997 13:51:19 -0000

>> I didn't get knocked out, i didn't get concusion and i certianly didn't
get
>> a broken bone.
>> But oh my god i couldn't walk on my leg for ages.
>> Does stun do that to you?
>> Just a query.
>
>Sounds more like Physical damage if you ask me. If your definition of
>"ages" means a minimum of a few days, Stun damage heals much faster than
>that.


Ages mant about two days of hobbeling round like i had a peg leg and a few
more days yelling bloody murder whenever someone hit it by 'accident'. The
bruse lasted for ages.
But, the point of this was, not really to ask if it was stun or not, but to
ask wheather or not a baceball bat would do stun or physical. I am
personally more inclined to say physical.

>> Also, when i fractured my finger in a fight, i was able to use it better
>> than the un-broken leg.
>> So would that physical equate to stun as well?
>
>The problem with Shadowrun combat is that they assume injury penalties will
>affect a character *whatever* he tries to do. Obviously, a fractured thumb
>will give you at least +1 (most likely +3) on anything you attempt to do
>with your hands, although it won't be much of a problem when running,
>jumping, or kicking.

Well, i was out and playing socker the day after. Of course, i didn't go in
goals. Hurt like hell when i was being jared around, but it didn't really
stop me from playing at all. I am now thinking of a hit location table not
just for spescific damage, but also for spescific area damage. Hmmmmmm...

>> And!
>> How about a rule that if you make a bod/will test when you reach full
stun
>> you don't fall unconcious?
>
>Hmmm... I like it. Of course, there would be even less incentive to use
>Stun weapons, since they don't "guarantee" a knockout like the original
>rules did :)

Ahhhhh, but doesn't that sound interesting. An added edge of danger for the
do good runner(ie, the previously thought unconsious guard shoots jim the
runner in the back as soon as it's turned. But I'd give Jim a perception
test to get out of it. Of course, after another hit, regardless of severity,
they would go down.).

>> hay, i do know something about real life!
>
>They say there's nothing more dangerous than someone with "a small bit of
>knowledge".

In that case, Jaws, Rockie, Terminstors, Supermen, and all other bad and
good guys look out. Cos' i have VERY, VERY little knowledge.

Grrrrrrrrr!!!!

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