| From: | Ereskanti <Ereskanti@***.COM> |
|---|---|
| Subject: | Re: Magic Questions |
| Date: | Tue, 16 Dec 1997 21:00:29 EST |
> On 16 Dec 97, AirWisp disseminated foul capitalist propaganda by
> writing:
> > What I believe Keith meant is that a person could not normally use
> > them to perform Quests of True Aura ... though in the case of a
> > Sorceror Adept SUSTAINING the astral sight spell then I would allow
> > (and this would also incur the +2 sustaining modifier on the
> > 'assensing') ...
>
> Well, IMO performing Quests of True Aura, requires the ability of
> Metaplanar Projection - even though they are "of Aura", they are
> "Quests". (BTW IMC adepts do get the ability of metaplanar projection
> later on...)
As I also said, the spell didn't confer Astral Projection....btw, how do you
get Metaplanar Projection with Astral Perception/Projection, or this part of
the staged development process as well?
> > The problem with what you have just said is that you are talking
> > about the books, and the writers do not have to explain the rule
> > mechanics or provide templates for their protagonists ... remember
> > ... this spell, astral sight, was thought up by someone who was a
> > player, and not one of the writers ...
>
> Yes. But the problem with such a spell is that as soon as the "it's
> possible" word gets out, every corp researcher is going to make one
> and the possibilities of astral recon go down the drain.
Really? Why? Please remember that "anchorings" and/or "quickenings"
will
never have Grade of Initiation (I don't think, let me work on it....ewg).
Thus, these people will be about the same range of perceptive scale as
Watchers (oh and those stories....).
> FAB? We don't need no steenkin FAB!
Oh yes we do....perfumigated even....
> I mean, if all it takes is two wimpy Karma points for glasses of
> Astral Sight, your average-to-high security sites will have guards
> going around with Renraku Astral Glasses (TM)...
(Binder poking his head around the corner, his hat in hands, holding a pair of
Ray-Bans...) "going price....30 grand...a steal...really..."
> Remember: if the PC have thought of it, somebody else probably also
> did... And corps invest heavy cash in research on astral security
> (see FAB).
Yes, and sometimes that can be fun too...lots of game plots in that.
> The only way I can see this done is that the spell allows for astral
> sight, but ONLY for the magically active (be they adepts, mages,
> shamans, physads etc.). Those who are not magically active see chaos.
No, they just see stuff they are unfamiliar with, perhaps a +2 modifier (or a
modifier equal to (10 - Essence) as they have damaged their own selves in some
fashion...
> Well, that assumes Astral Sight is another form of normal Sight. IMO
> not the case. I think what we have here is a fundamental difference
> in understanding of the nature of astral space, so I guess we'll have
> to agree to disagree...
OH no, not again.... ;)
> > Ever hear of something called Kirlian Plate Technology ... ask
> > around or see if you can find information about it from the nets ...
> > I'm sure you will find something ...
>
> Of course I did. I've read about it lots of times ago. So, please
> show me where does it say Kirlian photography allows one to see
> emotions associated with objects. <wicked grin>
Book of Medical Knowledge...years will vary...recordings made of people under
the effects of severe emotional trauma (I don't want to know what caused that
trauma right now)...indicated variations in the individuals' "aura". This is
one of those times I wish I still was in Phoenix with the ASU library at my
beckon call....
> I've read lotsa stuff about paranormal research. And IMO Kirlian
> Plate is not what we're looking for.
>
> But that's just me.
As I said, go find a good library...a BIG library and lots of time (and who
can find that anymore?).
> > Hey .. check it out ... an advancement in the SOTA curve ... gee,
> > damn ...
>
> Yeah. A BIG advancement. Besides, I guess somebody would invent this
> before going through all that trouble with FAB. FAB is EXPENSIVE.
> Aztechnology Astral Binoculars (TM, C, patent pending) are much
> cheaper... <grin>
(Binder puts the Ray-Bans away...pulls out a Zeiss-Oculate Lens) "going
price...42 grand and some change.....watta bargain.."
> > Considering that we consider that any Mech created (and we have
> > figured out how to make them - Keith and I) using the R2 rules would
> > stomp the daylights out of anything that BattleMech (IMHO) has at
> > the moment ...
Okay, jumping in on this side of the quote marks for once....I never said it
could stomp the hell out of a Mech from BattleTECH, but I'm sure it would
surprise the shit out of a few people...
> Yeah. Hey, I mean real Mechs, working according to real physics, not
> BattleTech physics (TM) (Hey, BattleTech is just set in an alternate
> universe with different laws of physics - it's that simple. :> ).
>
>
> > Have a Merry Christmas,
> You too. :)
> Sheesh. Normal smiley looks weird in my letters. That one's better.
> ;>
(Binder smiling funny...polished teeth) "...and if you act now, I'll even gift
wrap it all for free...."
-K
