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From: Ereskanti <Ereskanti@***.COM>
Subject: Re: Rigger Book 2
Date: Tue, 23 Dec 1997 19:51:11 EST
In a message dated 97-12-23 12:58:57 EST, sgmpaws@*******.COM writes:

> What *is* this supposed to be?

A sourcebook with inspiriation, I thought you liked that???

> The good news is that there was a very nice sounding description of how the
> VCR actually works. The science may be shakey but it sounds real good; and
> could be accurate enough as a description of what the Air Force is doing.

Oh brother...folks, please...somebody hold me down...reverse echo telneting
may be in order soon....

> The bad news is that whatever this book was supposed to be; It doesn't make
> the cut.

Sad to say, you are in a minority this time around (is this a surprise???)

> It would have helped if the writer had read the SRII rules as to using a
> Concentration vice using a Skill. There is no +2 modifier for going
> backwards from a Concentration to the general skill.

Sorry to say, but it does in many instances, IF the ruling calls for such.

> And it would have helped if the writer had the tiniest amount of knowledge
> as to engines, chassis, hot-rodding, weapon recoil systems, jet engines or
> anything else technological. Nearly every example was wrong and most of
> the terminology was ridiculous.

Actually, after drifting through some web sites, I will have to commend Jon
and all those individuals who worked on R2. No, it wasn't perfect, but it was
a far cry from "ridiculous". And nope, ever example wasn't "wrong".

> As the author obviously had no idea of what he was writing about, it would
> have been nice if the line developer had had some idea. Maybe some of the
> more glaring errors might have been caught.

Send me some of those "glaring errors" by direct email if you would please,
and don't worry, I read fast...so you can type as much crap as you like.

> I guess it is too much to ask for the editor to catch the errors. It seems
> to me that the current crop of "experts" involved in ShadowRun are trying
> to destroy the game. Doing a fair job too, at this rate there won't be
> anything left but errors. Maybe SR3 will come out and the SRII ruleset
> will go up for sale <hope>.

Although I do agree that Mike Mulhilvil is not the finest example of a game
design leader, I do NOT believe that he or anyone else is out to "destroy the
game." Hell, that would hurt FASA at the moment...SR books are selling, well
enough, especially compared to other game systems at the moment (I have gone
tripping around some statistics, it's not pretty, but it's NOT bad).

Those are not Errors, those are "Band Aids for War Wounds"...(see if you can
figure that one out).

> Disappointed but hangin' in,

And obviously with little room for "hangin" it would seem...

> Ivy K. (wait for me review of Awakenings)

Oh that should be well worth the reading....let's see if you and I agree
where, or what, Steve's definitions of SR "Advanced" Magic really are....

-K

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