From:	Ereskanti <Ereskanti@***.COM>
Subject:	Re: Initiation Advancement (Re: Foretelling)
Date:	Sat, 27 Dec 1997 20:19:50 EST

In a message dated 97-12-27 17:32:41 EST, mooreb@*****.FAC.COM writes:

> How do you handle the fact that some Metamagical Abilities are one-shot
> things that you learn and never advance with? For example, Quickening
> doesn't increase as your Initiate level increases (IIRC). On the other
> hand, Shielding does. A Karma-conserving mage would join a group that
> had LOTS of abilities just to learn them, and then join a different
> group to advance Shielding and Masking (IIRC the only abilities that
> are based on initiate grade).
>
This is really two questions.

We have altered things a bit in our games concerning Quickenings and the
like....the highest force spell cannot exceed the Grade of the Magician in
question. We used the concept of "Dispelling" as a basis for the argument.

The second one concerns being in multiple groups. We've been treating it like
people now treat being in multiple Karmic Team Pools. Being in one group is
one thing, karma costs do not alter in any way other than for Initiation Grade
Advancement. However, being "recognized" in more than one group for being a
grade that "Group A might accept, but Group B says BS about" is another
matter. We require the individual to spend an amount of karma equal to the
target grade paid to each group other than that group the person did the
advancement with as a sort of "Appeasement" to the groups AC.

That Help explain a few things?

-K