From:	"Ubiratan P. Alberton" <ubiratan@**.HOMESHOPPING.COM.BR>
Subject:	Re: Zeitgeists (Ghosts in Time?)
Date:	Sat, 2 May 1998 01:41:11 -0300

Jeremy "Bolthy" Zimmerman escreveu:
>

>
> Here's my original response:
>
> Okay, thought I'd give my input on the write up. I thought it was
> generally interesting, but a few things kinda nagged at me....
>
> The first was that they can only appear human, which I thought was a little
> silly. I've noticed that with many spirits, particularly Spirits of Man,
> their appearance is based more off of perception than soul. On top of
> which, it would be pretty hard for a Hate Lumini to get the trolls of an
> anti-human organization to go rampaging after humans if the spirit looked
> like human. He'd probably just get whacked.
>
> Another thing that got me right away is the association of Wisdom with Math
> and Science. If anything I'd associate these with the Lumini of the
> Machine. I would find it more applicable to be associated with the social
> skills, which you pointed out, as well the more "common sense" knowledges,
> such as all the different types of "Theories". Art I would place more in
> the realm of "Love" then "Wisdom".
>
> It cuts off in the midst of War, I think, and so that's about the end of
> what I can consider. =) I should also note that I think stats should have
> been listed with it.


Their original form is human, but if necessary, they (specially the
"evil ones" :) )
can use illusions or change shape temporarilly. The Hate Luminus could
anger the trolls
by inciting humans to act against them, thus spreading hate on both
sides...
I ahven't got to the Machine on that file yet, but imagine this: When
you think of Math
for Wisdom Lumini, think of Leonardo DaVinci hunched over a sheet of
paper with a quill in
his hand, designing one of his brilliant inventions, not in some
computer calculating. Think
of the entusiasm you feel when you solve a problem on your own, without
technological help.
This is the feeling those Lumini represent. It's the creative process
rather than the final
product.

And about the stats, each individual spirit is quite unique, and
since they represent emotions,
what better thing than let their stats be created subjectively? :)
Powers are used with Essence,
wich is also TN for conjuring, Banishing, etc. And the GM determines all
stats.

Ubiratan