From:	David Hinkley <dhinkley@***.ORG>
Subject:	Re: Buzzed gangers
Date:	Sat, 2 May 1998 16:17:33 +0000

On 29 Apr 98 at 22:58, Erik Jameson wrote:

> At 07:04 PM 4/29/98 -0500, you wrote:
>
> > I've seen "Angel Dust" in recreational use, andit was not my
>
> I don't really want to know. I've been to raves (back before most
> people in the States had heard of them) and I've seen a number of
> drugs in use, but never PCP or 'dust...
>
> >impression the user was berzerk, or strong. Theywere rather, um
> >uninibited, in away that might lead to disregard forlegal codesand
> >genral social convention, be that theft, viloence,sex. I think the
>
> That's true most of the time. PCP and the like don't automatically
> turn the user into a crazed berzerker.
>
> >"crazed pipehead" this is a myth used to justify police brutality. In
>
> Gotta disagree here. Any sort of drug that has a hallucinatory
> affect has the capacity for a "bad trip." In other words, something
> just clicks wrong and the user, for lack of a better phrase, freaks
> out. This happens with everything from pot to nasties like PCP.
> And the more powerful the drug, the nastier that "bad trip" will be.

And the less "pure" it is the more likely a bad trip. PCP has another
negitive side. Heavy users (and former usesrs) can have flashbacks
and from what I understand the flashbacks are useally bad trips.

My second hand story came frone a friend who was a ER tech. A PCP
user wentoff in a hall near the ER. The security guard (county
sheriff's reserve) confronted him. The PCP guy attacked him . My
friend who was behind the guy, saw the guard was losing hit the guy
with a steel IV pole. The guy turned to attack. The guard hit him
with a night stick. The guy turned on the guard. My friend hit him
again. Thr guy turned on my friend. This hit and turn hit and turn
was repeated until enough reinforcements arrived to take the guy
down. In that area the typical responce was five officers (one
each for the head, both arms and both legs) who tackle him take him
down and cuff him with at least two sets of cuffs. Seems that
they had had single sets of cuffs broken along with the subjects
wrists. All in all it is bad stuff.




David Hinkley
dhinkley@***.org