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From: Alfredo B Alves <dghost@****.COM>
Subject: Re: Munchkinism at it's finest
Date: Sat, 2 May 1998 20:17:55 -0500
On Thu, 30 Apr 1998 21:14:52 PDT The Vagabond <nomad74@*******.COM>
writes:
>Note: If you don't give a thread a topic, I will. >:)

>>Josh in his not-so-infinite wisdom states thusly:
>>As a part-time gamemaster I have come up with the following:

> Looks like you need to log more hours. :) (j/k)

>>New 2060 ENHANCED-cyberware:
>>
>>TYPE ESSENCE COST
>>
>>ALPHA (-20%) (this is at standard cost and Availiabilty)
>>BETA (-40%) ( Cost x7, as per SSG) (Availability = +5 )
>>*DELTA (-60%) ( Cost x12) (Availability = +9)

> Delta is in Cybertech, and it's 50%/x10, IIRC

>>*GAMMA (-80%) ( Cost x20) (Availability = +13)
>>*EPSILON (-90%) ( Cost x100)(Availability = +20)
>>*SUPER EPSILON (-99%) ( Cost x200)(Availability = +35)
>>
>>I believe that this is fair (a super epsilon datajack costs 100,000Y)

> I believe it's not. Anything above 50% essence redection is just
>munchkinism. You can't rationalize these stats to a sane person.
<<SNIP contigency plan, slings and arrows (be nice Vagabond ... even to
the munchkins ;) >>
>
>-Vagabond
> "Under wandering stars I've grown"

okay first let's correct the chart with the Greek alphabet supplied by
Michael Broadwater (Thanks)
Alpha, Beta, and Epsilon remain unchanged,
Delta becomes Gamma (Ya know, I wondered why I always wanted to call
Deltaware Gammaware...)
S. Epsilon becomes Zeta (Which marketing may rename Omega since it sounds
much cooler ;)

I agree with Vagabond that cyberware that yields more than 50% decrease
in Essence cost is definately bad (with Delta grade cyber [now called
Gamma] and good surgery rolls, you can get the equivelent 15 essence
points of ware! That's a full body replacement with plenty of essence to
spare without going into cybermancy ...)

However if you insist on lower essence costs for newer wares, I suggest
the following:
Type Essence Cost Cost Availability
Delta 45% x20 ---
Epsilon 40% ? ---
Zeta 35% ? ---

In this incarnation Delta represents the alpha testing stage of a new
product whereas Epsilon and Zeta would be prototypes. I recomend
translating the extra essence reduction below 50% into body index (ie
Delta ware would increase body index by 5% of the original essence cost).
Remember: prototypes and gear in the alpha/beta test stages often have
unfriendly bugs <egmg> ...

Speaking of cyber and body index... would cyber increase the body index?
I can't see why it would ... I'm just starting down this train of thought
but ... I think cyber should incur body index (this, btw, would prevent a
chrome king from loading up on bioware). I see the cyber as doing more
"damage" to the aura (or perhaps it would be appropriate to say the
synchrinicty of the aura) than to the body index... but still raising the
body index some ... bioware would be the reverse ...what do you think?

These higher end cybergrades could also represent cyberartifacts
"available" through special channels. For example perhaps the Otaku
would know how to make a datajack at 40% essence cost and 10% in body (a
R4 datajack would cost .1 essence and increase body index by .025). Each
source would have the knowhow to produce one or two items at this level
and would only give access to certain people (in the above example, this
special datajack would only be available to other otaku.) In the case of
these special groups possessing this level of advanced knowledge, I would
forgo the bugs of prototypes.

hmmm... actually, the otaku might have the knowledge to theoretically
create a bioware datajack ... the only prob would be the connection to
the datajack plug ...

D.Ghost
(aka Pixel,Tantrum)
"Rub her feet" --Robert A. Heinlein

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