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From: Fade <runefo@***.UIO.NO>
Subject: Re: Vampires ( & Mages )
Date: Tue, 5 May 1998 06:05:18 +0000
> Okay, I don't know much about White Wolf's games and truthfully, don't
> really care.
The rules lend a lot from Shadowrun, in case you ever want to try.
(Shadowrun is listed among the inspirational sources).

> BUT it was mentioned by Robert Nessius earlier that he used several items
> from that gaming series to provide culture references for Shadowrun,
> specifically mentioning Vampire and Mage.
Think I remember something like that, yes.

> I'm somewhat curious to tell the truth now. If I were only to purchase one
> book for Vampire info and one book for Mage info, what should I buy?
> Especially if I didn't want to deal with a lot of game mechanics nonsense,
> just background materials that could be mined for Shadowrun purposes.

Mage is drastically different from Shadowrun - magic is hidden,
practitioners is hunted by some dark cabals, the only limit on mages'
power is Paradox. Vampire is a lot easier to incorporate into
shadowrun - it would involve little or no change in game material.
(Unless you wanted to copy the game system as well.... could be done,
as it's similar, but probably not necessary.). In either case, most
of what you need is in the main rule book(s).

The most interesting idea in Vampire, in regard to shadowrun, is that
each skill test is from a *combination* of skill and attribute.
Translated to shadowrun - weightlifting would be (str+athletics)
dice, sprinting would be quickness+athletics, a normal firearms test
would be quickness+firearms, while marksmanship/sniping might be
intelligence + firearms. It would be interesting to use something
akin to that in SR, but it would have to be a new edition - it's too
big a change for just 'modifying' the system.

--
Fade

And the Prince of Lies said:
"To reign is worth ambition, though in Hell:
Better to reign in hell than to serve in heaven."
-John Milton, Paradise Lost

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