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From: David Buehrer <dbuehrer@******.CARL.ORG>
Subject: Re: Sex & the Single Shadowrunner(thanks)
Date: Tue, 5 May 1998 11:02:15 -0600
Alexia Silverstein wrote:
/
/ ---Wafflemeisters <evamarie@**********.NET> wrote:
/ ><snip>
/ > Why does it generally seem only FEMALE pc's are "useful" in
/ this
/ > manner, despite (rare) male PC's identical stats and skills? Isn't
/ > sexism suposed to be a dead issue in SR?
/ <snip>
/ > -Mongoose
/
/ Well, I mean guys are just more reserved in their sexuality in front
/ of other guys, therefore even if the opportunity arose for a pc to
/ interact hetero or homo sexualy with a gm character, they'd be too
/ intimidated by the fact that they may do something and fail miserably
/ in front of all thier buddies. (at least this is what I've found)
/ Maybe I hang out with a wird bunch but all the girls I know are very
/ secure in thier sexuality and say things like "you think this 'll get
/ the guy's attention?" (referring to a low cut blouse or slit in the
/ skirt) Where as guys I know try to avoid anything like that.
/ So...even if sexism is dead in SR, there are still psychological
/ issues in the actual players themselves that make women more suited to
/ play these parts.

The sexual security of men also has to do with their age. I don't
know why, but that seems to be the case. For example, when I was
younger everything Alexia said was right on the nose. Neither I, nor
any of my friends, were secure sexually. Well, except for Bill, but
he was an exception. Nowadays my sexuality is pretty secure, as is
the sexuality of my friends. I can even point out to my friend Craig
that his tight ass probably drives women crazy.

I think it's cuz women don't have to deal with testosterone. From
the ages of 1-11 I couldn't care less about sexuality issues. Then,
Bang, I couldn't think of anything else and didn't understand it a
bit. It's like getting a craving for icecream and you're pretty sure
you know what flavor you want, but you don't have a clue as to how to
get some, let alone knowing how to eat it.

Over time most men either get used to it and learn to deal with their
sexuality, or the testosterone level drops off and they don't care.
I learned to deal with it :) Being married also adds to my level of
security <shrug>.

I don't think that sexuality should be a dead issue in Shadowrun. I
think that problems similar to today's problems should exist. Men
should still, in general, be "tight" when it comes to sexuality. I
don't know what women should be cuz I don't understand them ;) With
the advent of cybertechnology and advanced cosmetic surgery the lines
should be blurred, while being more in the fore front.

Is that a man or a woman, both, neither? What do you mean you used
to be a man? I only date women that used to be men, they know how to
make love to a man. Etc.

-David
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"That which we do not know supports that which we know."
- Joseph Campbell
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