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From: "Ojaste,James [NCR]" <James.Ojaste@**.GC.CA>
Subject: Re: Vehicle Economy (was RE: What is a CF?)
Date: Wed, 6 May 1998 10:34:55 -0400
Geoff Skellams wrote:
>> Now the only real problem I have with R2 is economy. I know
>the reason
[snip]
> I have run into this problem as well. I have a thing for
>vehicles with ultra-long ranges (mainly because I keep thinking about
>running them unsupported in the Australian outback). For ground vehicles
>it's not too difficult to make a vehicle which has a long range. But it
>is really hard to make a drone with that sort of range, especially if
>you want to put in a military sensor pack.

How about:
Fixed-Wing UAV, Large
Jet Propeller
Improved Economy (+2 km/L)
Increase Fuel Tank Capacity (+800L)
Increased Cargo Space (+23CF)
Load Increase (+120 kg)
Sensors (L6 - low grade military)

Flight range of 860*3 = 2580 km. Not bad...

> My current pet project is thinking about high-speed, long range
>strategic recon drones (sort of an unmanned SR-71). When I started
>playing around with the design rules the other day, you can get a large
>UAV with a top of the line military sensor pack to only go at most a
>couple of hundred k's.

Top of the line? L10 sensors then. Have to drop the Fuel tank
capacity to 560L, increase the Load to +220 kg, and that still leaves
you with a range of 560*3 = 1680 km. Again, it should suffice. :-)

[snip]
> Personally, I think the economy ratings for most powerplants are
>way too low. Jon may have been basing things on some of the American
>manufacturers, which are not so concerned with economy. But it becomes a
>bigger issue out here.

Yeah, some of the economies are a bit too greedy, but in general
they're not too bad.

> Somehow I doubt I could make my old Hyundai Excel hatchback
>using the shadowrun rules. The best trip I ever got out of that baby was
>728km off a single 45L tank of petrol (16.167km/L). I could regularly
>get 500km+ from a single tank around town, and 600-650km on the freeway.

Well, it bothers me that in R2, a Commuter/Subcompact has a max
economy of 12km/L while a sedan can go 14km/L... The basic subcompact
can do 480km (40L) and the sedan can do 840km (60L). The subcompact
is in line with your 500km on a 45L tank (540 km), so they're not
that bad...

James Ojaste

The Shop save file for the Spy Drone I listed above:
"Shop v1.2"
"Spy drone"
"Fixed-Wing UAV, Large"
"Jet Propeller"
0,0,0,0,0
40,"Improved Economy"
50,"Increase Fuel Tank Capacity"
10,"Sensors"
22,"Load Increase"
23,"Increased Cargo Space"

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