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From: Erik Jameson <erikj@****.COM>
Subject: Re: ED Races in SR; why it can't happen (long)
Date: Wed, 6 May 1998 20:09:53 -0400
At 05:28 PM 5/6/98 -0500, you wrote:

> Believe it or not, not everything is a conspiracy. In the
immortal words
>of the bumper sticker: Shit Happens.

Oh, I know. I was just speculating. IF this is true, then what are the
implications sort of thing. A mental exercise, especially since I don't
personally believe that VITAS did wipe out the ED races.

> I believe you mean "sprites" (can't say, don't own the book myself).
>However, windlings I'm also not so sure about. IMO, they are Awakened
>humans, likely a "subrace" of elves. They aren't fond of cities, which
>opens up another avenue: They could be either offshoots of dryads or a
>corporeal race of nature spirits (since they are dual-natured in ED).

Sprites, faeries, brownies, leprechauns, to me, they are all essentially
the same.

I'd have to think they aren't an elf off-shoot because they are so much
smaller than elves and have those wings. I'd really be more inclined to
think they are totally separate from humanity.

> Actually, the problem is whether or not they're warm-blooded
(which the
>ED text seems to indicate they are). I would place them as being closer
>to birds, but actually being an Awakened form of dinosaur, if they are not
>human (which I am finding increasingly unlikely). Given the possibility
>of surviving dinosaurs in the Congo, look for them to be coming out of the
> jungles of Africa... or maybe a lake in Scotland <g>

Now this is probably true. T'skrang as awakened humanoid dinosaurs (which,
according to some paleontologists may actually have been warm blooded; I
seem to recall that part of their arguement is that in order to keep up a
constant body temperature a 30 ton dinosaur would have to eat 30 hours in a
24 hour day. A bit impossible).

And *IF* they were to appear, I would expect them either from the darkest
interior of Congo Africa. Or perhaps in an underwater city off the coast
of India (that's from the Theran sourcebook).

> Actually, there is something else you haven't considered: Did
VITAS only
>affect humans? Its highly likely that the decimation of humans from VITAS
>was only a side effect, originally having targeted another species.

Now that's thinking laterally. But entirely possible. Most diseases don't
cross species for some reason, but some do and it is possible that VITAS is
one of them. That could explain the chupacabras (and I'm now convinced
they are chimpanzee ghouls or the equivalent). But what species? Nothing
about a mass extinction of any specific species is mentioned in SR. And
Awakened critters just don't spring out of nothingness, they are all
"mutant" version of modern animals.

>> "This job has taken my dignity, my self-esteem, my creativity and my
>> precious time on this earth. YOU'VE TAKEN ALL I HAVE! THERE'S NOTHING
>> LEFT TO GIVE!!!"
>>
>> "The blood drive is next week; this year it's mandatory...and a
>three-pint
>> minimum."
> This is a bloody fucking hilarious quote.

Don't thank me, thank Scott Adams and Dilbert. That man is a messiah;
Wally is my hero and Catbert is my idol. There is supposedly going to be a
Dilbert cartoon on ABC prime time next fall; if they put it on the same
night as Dharma&Greg and The Drew Carey Show, that's one night I *won't* be
leaving the house.

Good points though.

Erik J.


"What was that popping sound?"

"A paradigm shifting without a clutch."

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