From:	Katt Freyson <katt@******.NET>
Subject:	Re: FASA's On/Off Course?
Date:	Thu, 7 May 1998 00:56:02 -0400

|> From: Nexx
|> Sent: May 6, 1998 4:41 PM
|> Subject: Re: FASA's On/Off Course?

|> Adam, I respect your work on this list greatly, but that
|> has got to be
|> the most moronic phrase in the entire English Language, and
|> likely quite a
|> few others. X would still be X if it didn't have Y, it would just be
|> different.

Phew, I was hesitant in answering Adam's post due to my recent history,
but was hoping someone else had caught this. If someone had given this
phrase to my teacher when I was taking Critical Thinking, they would have
flunked. Basically he is saying P= !P which is not possible.

I would believe that Adam was trying to say that Shadowrun without magic
would be different, but still close enough not to matter.

It is my opinion that this is wrong, very wrong. While it may not be
apparent all the time, magic in Shadowrun has greatly influenced things. The
Tir Tan Gire(sp) for example would not exist, and that is a big difference.
The NANs would not have been able to reclaim any territory. And, the day to
day things that are not necessarily noticed would be very different.

So I'd say that to state that Shadowrun would be basically the same
without the magic is being incorrect. But that is my opinion.

Just because you have scenarios that don't make much use of magic is
irrelevant, because the magic is there in the background and does influence
things.

Katt Freyson
ICQ UIN 3337155
Montreal, Canada
http://www.dsuper.net/~katt