| From: | Alfredo B Alves <dghost@****.COM> |
|---|---|
| Subject: | Re: Do you all jump to conclusions, or is it just for me? (long) |
| Date: | Mon, 11 May 1998 02:45:39 -0500 |
<demosthenes_3@*****.COM> writes:
>Wow. Not the reaction I expected at all.
>I mean I've seen some of your websites, and watched a few of you on
>IRC - guess I expected a little more open mindedness.
Are you *seriously* saying that a peice of cyberware that hurls chunks of
the user's own flesh at an opponent is a valid SR concept? (btw pleas
read this all the way to the end :)
>A few of you have a couple misconceptions about me.
>Let me address those for you, OK? :)
>
>1) I am sick - Well, yes, I suppose I am. I hereby freely admit it.
>
>2) My "Chunk Launcher" Ninja is NOT a shapeshifter - I KNOW shifters
>can't have cyberware, that would be silly. My character has
>regeneration by using the Immortaily Flower from the California Free
>State book, OK? Lot less powerful, lot harder to get, more expensive,
>and more dangerous. It goes along with the sick thing in step 1, OK?
>Besides, shifters are truly munchkinous. :) Yes, I realize that using
>this weapon very odten would quickly incapacitate me, damage
>resistance or no. Did I ever say that this thing fired bursts? Hell
>no. It's a SINGLE SHOT weapon, sort of an astral hold-out pistol, OK?
Shapeshifters are not munchy; players are munhy; players who try to get
maximum result for minimum drawbacks are munchy. If ya want an astral
ranged attack buy distance strike (Awakenings) it's pretty much the only
way. Trying to get an astral ranged attack through cyber is ... you
guessed it ... munchy (most likely anyway)
>3) Flesh removed from the body is dead - Where'd that idea come from?
>Certainly not from Biology. Skin grafts, organ transplants, etc. (All
>canon Shadowrun concepts) are certainly alive, and any first year med
>student can tell you that tissue removed from the body can remain
>viable and alive for quite some time after being torn from a body.
viable and alive is one thing, containing an astral active aura is
another
>4) Removed flesh has no aura - where'd that come from? Certainly not
>any Fasa product I've ever seen. Sounds like you're quoting a house
>rule at me. Where an aura comes from has never been plainly stated in
>and Shadowrun product, or erratta I've ever seen. (Which is ALL of it.
>:)) You wanna make the aura a part of the "conciousness" fine, I say
>it's a biological abstraction. You say Shamanic, I say Hermetic. :)
You need to do more reading ... read Corporate Securrity Handbook? page
40 (I'm not sure if this is the right page personally, my copy's with a
friend so had to ask on irc)
"Things that do not have an active astral pressence cannot fight or be
hurt in any way in astral space" --pg 147 BBB (that's pretty much as
cannon as it gets)
>5) I "violated a sacred trust between player and GM by going around
>Loche 7's back and posting this to the list" - Hmmm, kinda hard to go
>behind his back when he's on this list isn't it? As for this "sacred
>trust" thing - I think you and your GM have been seeing too much of
>each other.:) Repeat after me "It's only a game, it's only a game" :)
>Just re-reading my post, I can't seem to find where I said that I was
>going to use list approval to influence my GM. Hmmm that must mean I
>wan't doing that, doesn't it. Just wanted a little input, that's all.
I admit it was rough on you but that was intentional, I wanted to make
sure you knew how serious that was ... and don't give me that it's only a
game crap, I am not talking about the game I'm talking about a
relationship between two people (yes I know the sounds way too deep) I've
seen too many people run around and ask 1 person's opinion then turn
around to someone else and say "see he/she agrees with me, why don't
you?" Once your GM says no to an idea discussing how you could change it
to work is okay ... continued argument is touchy at least ... you're
chalenging his authority (if you present an new view that convinces him,
then that's different) and he needs that authority. Just be careful
`kay? I'm sure we all want you two to *stay* friends ...
>6)Physical objects don't damage astral objects - Again, this sounds
>like a house rule to me. However, I recognize that Fasa has never been
>clear with this, which is why I posted the whole silly thing to the
>list in the first place, to get more ideas. We DO exchange ideas on
>this list right? Or do we just jump all over anyone who posts them and
>make veiled references to Munchkins, and wild guesses about player's
>ages (27 by the way, surprised? :))
See quote above. FASA *has* been clear on this. and I thought we made
it clear that we thought this idea was munchkinous ... 27? yes, I am
surprised... I would've guessed an educated 12 ... j/k but there was a
youthful somewhat immature tone to your post ... :)
>7)"Range combat cannot do damage to an astral being [though there
>might be a few exceptions to this rule they don't matter here].
>Hmm, so Distance Strike, Banishing, and Combat Spells, (All ranged
>combat) aren't effective against spirits? (Astral beings, in case you
>missed it.) Gee, guess I'll have to pull those pages out of my
>rulebooks. :)
By ranged combat I believe whoever stated that was refering to mundane
ranged combat...
>8) What's a THWAP? It looks like a flame to me. Gee, coming from
>Barbie, it looks like fan mail. :) I've seen you on IRC Barbie,
>Getting labeled a munchkin from you is a fine compliment, since you
>seem to be in the perfect position to judge, being one yourself. Tell
>Mr. White I said "Hi!" :) Oh wait, I forgot, ALfredo B. Alves said
>you're a "special case" do I need a permit to be one too, or is that
>something specifically reserved for your group? :)
WHAT???? forget all pleasentries ... Barbie's no munch, she RPs a munch
doesn't RP and I never sed Barbie was a special case ... oh wait are you
referring to my response to Lady Jestyr's post? I meant that she's a
shaper with cyber but has special rules to keep the cyber ...
>Now then, I seem to be fresh out of sarcasm.
>I do want to thank those who gave me logical, RULES-based reasons why
>this was a bad idea. (Ereskanti comes to mind quickly)
>
>Gee maybe I should post my Suitcase nuke/Anti nuke barrier enchanted
>weapon next huh? (That was a joke - thought I should point it out for
>the humor impaired among us.)
>
>Desmothenes 3
>aka Dr. D__M, but close friends get to call me TC. :)
>
>Oh yeah, what's a "FAB Bat?"
once again read Corporate Security Handbook and you'll get the reference
... you arogant ... hmmm I better cut this short before I really get
aggravated... I congratulate you ... pissing me off is no small feat :|
D.Ghost
(aka Pixel, Tantrum)
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