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From: Panther <qmilton@**.NET>
Subject: Re: Do you all jump to conclusions, or is it just for
Date: Mon, 11 May 1998 04:57:02 +0000
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> Besides, shifters are truly munchkinous. :)

No they're not, not if you play them right. But then, that's the
REAL problem with them. It's RARE that a person manages to properly
RP they're Bestial Nature, Dual Nature, etc.

> 3) Flesh removed from the body is dead - Where'd that idea come
> from? Certainly not from Biology. Skin grafts, organ transplants,
> etc. (All canon Shadowrun concepts) are certainly alive, and any
> first year med student can tell you that tissue removed from the
> body can remain viable and alive for quite some time after being
> torn from a body.

I believe they meant 'dead' as in had no living aura.

> 4) Removed flesh has no aura - where'd that come from? Certainly not
> any Fasa product I've ever seen. Sounds like you're quoting a house
> rule at me. Where an aura comes from has never been plainly stated
> in and Shadowrun product, or errata I've ever seen. (Which is ALL
> of it. :)) You wanna make the aura a part of the "conciousness"
> fine, I say it's a biological abstraction. You say Shamanic, I say
> Hermetic. :)

The whole concept of the aura, IMO, is that of the spirit or soul
that all living things have. Which means that it's also the source
of conciousness, etc. How else can you explain ghosts? ;)

> 6)Physical objects don't damage astral objects - Again, this sounds
> like a house rule to me. However, I recognize that Fasa has never
> been clear with this, which is why I posted the whole silly thing to
> the list in the first place, to get more ideas. We DO exchange ideas
> on this list right? Or do we just jump all over anyone who posts
> them and make veiled references to Munchkins, and wild guesses about
> player's ages (27 by the way, surprised? :))

Physical objects can't damage astral objects for the same reason that
astral beings can pass through said physical objects. Now, if that
'physical object' were astrally active, that would be a totally
different story. But that would mean it's dual-natured, wouldn't it?

> 7)"Range combat cannot do damage to an astral being [though there
> might be a few exceptions to this rule they don't matter here]. Hmm,
> so Distance Strike, Banishing, and Combat Spells, (All ranged
> combat) aren't effective against spirits? (Astral beings, in case
> you missed it.) Gee, guess I'll have to pull those pages out of my
> rulebooks. :)

#1. Distance strike is an extension of the user's will. Your will,
eg. Willpower, is how you combat astral beings.

#2. Banishing is NOT combat. It's something totally different.

#3. PHYSICAL Combat Spells have no effect on astral beings, that is
correct. OTOH, MANA BASED Combat Spells can be used effectively
against astral beings.

> 8) What's a THWAP? It looks like a flame to me. Gee, coming from
> Barbie, it looks like fan mail. :) I've seen you on IRC Barbie,
> Getting labelled a munchkin from you is a fine compliment, since you
> seem to be in the perfect position to judge, being one yourself.
> Tell Mr. White I said "Hi!" :) Oh wait, I forgot, ALfredo B. Alves
> said you're a "special case" do I need a permit to be one too, or is
> that something specifically reserved for your group? :)

Funny. Real funny. First off, Barb is one of the FURTHEST things
from a munchkin that I know of. I can say that honestly because I
know her well as both a person and a player. You do NOT have the
right to call someone a munchkin based on a char you haven't actually
seen. Especially since you obviously have NO clue what you're
talking about. Say whatever the hell you want, I don't care, because
I, and the majority of people on this list, know better. So knock it
off before you piss the wrong people off.

> Gee maybe I should post my Suitcase nuke/Anti nuke barrier enchanted
> weapon next huh? (That was a joke - thought I should point it out
> for the humor impaired among us.)

A joke, huh? Humor impaired, huh? This entire POST has an attitude
that tells me otherwise.

BTW, this is NOT a flame. You'd know it if it was.

Pantherr

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