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From: Alfredo B Alves <dghost@****.COM>
Subject: Re: Do you all jump to conclusions, or is it just for me? (long)
Date: Mon, 11 May 1998 13:43:08 -0500
On Mon, 11 May 1998 13:58:01 -0400 Katt Freyson <katt@******.NET> writes:
>|> From: Alfredo B Alves
>|> Sent: May 11, 1998 3:46 AM
>|> Subject: Re: Do you all jump to conclusions, or is it just for me?
>
>|> Are you *seriously* saying that a peice of cyberware that hurls
chunks of
>|> the user's own flesh at an opponent is a valid SR concept? (btw
pleas
>|> read this all the way to the end :)

Hmmm... I should have removed this last line before I posted (doncha hate
it when your intent changes in the middle of your post? Was this a
paradigm shifting without a clutch? /me makes a mental not to look up
paradigm)

> While you and most of the sane world may agree that this is stupid
and
>won't work, this does _not_ mean it is an invalid concept. Within the
>framework of the SR universe it was well thought out. Most of us, it
would
>seem, don't agree that it would work, but that is something else.

Hmmm...When I sent this I was agrivated (and get more so the more I read)
and couldn't think of the correct wording ... By valid I mean 1) in
keeping with the spirit of SR and 2) at all feasable. Perhaps it would
have been better if I worded this differently ... perhaps an inapropriate
post? sound better?

>|> Shapeshifters are not munchy; players are munhy; players who try to
get
>|> maximum result for minimum drawbacks are munchy.
>
> That's _your_ opinion, not a fact. I'd say that this was reasonable
and
>sane, however, reasonable and sane is not fun.

incorrect ... munchkins are _players_ that don't roleplay powerful
characters (I'm not sure if the character being powerful is prerequisite)
sometimes people will refer to munchkin characters that they have in
which case, they are talking about characters the players are
uncharactistically munchkinous with ... anyway, Roleplaying is an
integral part of the definition of a munchkin therefore a shapeshifter is
not inherently munchkinous ... players who roleplay Shapers poorly can
munchkinous ... Of course *every*thing I say unless I quote is IMO or
IIRC / AFAIK :)

>|> I admit it was rough on you but that was intentional, I wanted to
make
>|> sure you knew how serious that was
>
> Er, take it easy there big fella. It would seem that _you_ are the
one
>with the problem here, heck even Loche 7 had no problem. Desmothes did
>nothing wrong here, you are the one who is brining evil into this. You
>claimed to know his intent, my question is how? Are you sure you are not
>projecting? The French have a good saying for this, "Mal est lui, qui
mal y
>trouve." Roughly translated, "Evil is he who finds evil here."

Are you finding evil me? ;)
I disagree, Demos appeared to me as trying to get backing to pressure his
GM ... I *know* he didn't say anything / imply I was posting in case that
was his intent ... I actually I gave a suggestion on how to change the
idea to a semi- workable state (which I wouldn't allow myself but ...)
which few people if anybody did.

> Also, your vile responses to him indicates that you may have a
problem
>that needs to be looked at. Desmothes wanted to talk about his idea,
never
>did he say, or imply that his G.M. was an idiot and that he wanted our
aid
>in convincing him. So please, stop with this BS.

If you mean mental problems, yes, but none that affected my post :)
But yes, I had a problem with his post besides the intent I percieved, he
quoted me out of context and twisted it to hurt a friend of mine.

>|> By ranged combat I believe whoever stated that was refering to
mundane
>|> ranged combat...
>
> Correct, but I guess I could have been clearer.
>
>Katt Freyson
<SNIP>

I had intended to say something more pleasant at the end of my response
since he said he hadn't intended to twist his GM's arm about it but his
arogance and that last bit where he used something I said to hurt a
friend tore it ... it takes alot to earn my dislike but attacking my
friends is the quickest way to do it ... (If I were a shaman, I'd follow
the Wolf Totem)

D.Ghost
(aka Pixel, Tantum)
*adjusts mononcle and stroke persian cat* "Well Miss Freyson, I have our
little discussion with you but our time is at an end ..." ;)

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