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From: Cobra <wgallas@*****.FR>
Subject: Re: Cyberware and Regeneration
Date: Tue, 12 May 1998 15:40:49 +0200
>DT commented that it says in the SRC that it is the regeneration that
>causes the cyberware to be rejected. That is, of course, true.
>(SRC, p. 38). He also said, end of discussion. Not quite true, but
>close. :)

I don't interpret it like this. IMO, regeneration rejects cyberware that
has not been installed before the critter (or guy) gains this power.
In the case of a shapeshifter, nothing is changed since it has the
regenration power since its birth. For a vampire, I would state that he
keeps his cyberware when he becomes a vampire but has no possibility to
implant new ones.
IMO, cyberware does affect your aura. At the time you lose essence, it
becomes an integrated part of you (IMO since there's no clear quote on this
subject in SR). The reason why you can't get cyberware after having become
regenerative is:
1/ You can't be hospitalized because regeneration power is much too powerful.
2/ I would state (but it's only MO) that the aura freezes in some way. I
see regeneration power as the ability for the corpse to evolve into the
exact appearance of aura. Thus, since the aura is stabilized (otherwise the
power couldn't work), you can't accept the alteration from cyberware.

>That implies that paying essence for something does not make it
>part of the aura, whatever implications that has. But then what about
>why you can cast spells through cybereyes? Why one thing and not the
>other?

See above.

>Someone (Barbie?) said shapechange spells change the cyber's shape,
>but it ceases to work. That cannot be 100% correct - much cyber works
>simply by existing.(Bone lacing, e.g.) Some cyber would lead to the
>user's death if it ceased to work.. not that that's an argument
>against it ceasing to work.

Actualy, I don't see why it shouldn't work... If the spell is able to alter
your flesh, it can alter your cyberware BECAUSE you paid essence for it.
So, if a sammy with wired reflexes 2 is transformed into a tiger, he still
has his wired reflexes. However, I would state that these wired reflexes
replace the initiative bonus dices from tiger form.

>As an aside, even stuff with weakness/allergy will be rejected, as it
>is regenerated as well, only slower. (1 box per minute, SRC P. 38).

Same as above. If the allergy is a part of his aura, he keeps it. If not,
it is rejected.

>Another commented regeneration doesn't replace mass... why not?
>There's many examples of 'something from nothing' throughout SR...
>or, to be more correct, something from astral. Shifters are always
>dual.

Actualy, you have to admit that regeneration replaces mass otherwise, a guy
blown by a shotgun couldn't heal because he wouldn't be able to replace all
the flesh that has gone.

- Cobra.

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