| From: | David Thompson <david.s.thompson@****.EDU> |
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| Subject: | Re: Do you all jump to conclusions, or is it just for me? (long) |
| Date: | Tue, 12 May 1998 12:03:10 -0400 |
> It would be like any character using a mundane weapon, and that can
>never effect purely astral beings. And an assensing character couldn't
>effect those same beings with flesh bullets any more than he could by
>throwing his weapon focus at it.
Not necessarily, because the whole craziness of ripping part of one's own
body out to attack an astral entity _might_ be enough to do damage, given
the willpower involved. I'm thinking of examples of mundanes attacking
manifest spirits when it is willpower that matters. This is a somewhat
similar situation, and a GM could allow it. Obviously most on this list
would not allow it, and that is fine too. I'm not arguing that it is
necessarily a valid idea, just that there is some merit.
>
>
>>Perhaps people are playing with rules for the sake of an interesting
idea, and
>>you have NO BUSINESS JUDGING THEM because of it.
>
> It was presented to the list to be judged.
Sorry, perhaps I was unclear. Judge the ideas, _not_ the people. If the
idea lacks merit or violates a rule, it is quite simple to say so. If the
idea is potentially unbalancing, again that is an issue and bears
discussing. To immediately accuse the presentor of the idea of being a
munchkin, or (as others did) going even further and insulting their
intentions and knowledge of the game has no place. An attack on the person
behind the idea is a classic logical fallacy, and it is also quite
insulting. I (and I think others) also find it quite infuriating as it has
no place in civilized discussion.
Look at the responses this post got:
you are a munchkin
you are a rules lawyer who doesn't even know the rules, -- munchkin
you should be thrown out of the game for posting an idea "behind your gm's
back"
if you were my player and did this (went to the list with the idea) I would
let
you play the PC just so I could kill it
you are sick, etc. etc.
What the hell is a flame if not insulting the poster like this?
Some discussed the aura of the chunk but most missed the fact that the
ninja was astrally active in the first place. Also, the freshness of the
separation from the body puts into question the conclusions of others on
the list (IMO). Others discussed the idea, and insulted and attacked the
poster at the same time. Why? Who gains from that. If you are having a
bad day at work, take it out on a wall or deal with it with someone who
knows you and presumably cares, don't attack people on the list you don't
even know.
--DT
