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From: David Buehrer <dbuehrer@******.CARL.ORG>
Subject: Re: Cyberware and Regeneration
Date: Tue, 12 May 1998 11:20:00 -0600
Jeremy \"Bolthy\" Zimmerman wrote:
/
/ ----------
/ > From: David Buehrer <dbuehrer@******.CARL.ORG>
/ > To: SHADOWRN@********.ITRIBE.NET
/ > Subject: Re: Cyberware and Regeneration
/ > Date: Tuesday, May 12, 1998 7:32 AM
/ >
/ > Cobra wrote:
/ > /
/ > / 1/ You can't be hospitalized because regeneration power is much too
/ powerful.
/ >
/ > Actually, it could be done. You'd just have to keep slicing and dicing
/ > until the patient's regeneration failed.
/
/ Typically that means that they are dead. =) YMMV, though.

Regeneration can fail if the person takes a Deadly wound. A Deadly
wound does not equal death.

In the controlled environment of a hospital it is possible to do
enough "damage" to a person to kill him while keeping him alive using
machines to take the place of organ functions. It might also be
possible in SR to actively lower the temperature of a patient to a
point where the cells "suspend" their activitity, thus preventing
regeneration during surgery.

I can think of many other ways to work around the regeneration power
to perform surgery on someone, from using drugs to repress the power,
to using magic.

Given the options available in SR I believe that it would be possible to
perform surgery on a patient with regeneration.

/ IMHO, though, even if it was weakened enough to keep a wound open and
/ stick a piece of cyberware in there, it would then make a forcible attempt
/ to try and close up the wound once the energy was restored and try to
/ remove the offending object from the body, much like I imagine it would do
/ if it got shot.

Why would a regenerator reject something that a normal person
wouldn't? Today we can make implants that the human body will
accept: titanium hip ball/socket joints, plastic knees, pace makers,
steel pins and screws used to hold shattered bones together, etc.
The cyberware of SR meets the same conditions. They are made of
materials that a person's immune system will not recognize as a
foreign object and will blithly ignore.

So, you perform the surgery using some method to circumnavigate the
regenerative power of the patient. You implant the cyberware. You
return the person to normal and let the regeneration power kick in.

The person's surgical "wounds" heal. The implants are not recognized
as foreign objects, and are not rejected, and are accepted as part of
the body.

/ How about this model:
/
/ You're a creature with regeneration. You decide to get cybereyes. You
/ have your current eyes removed, mechanical ones put it. Your supernatural
/ ability of regeneration then will try to regrow the eyes that were
/ "damaged" by the surgical removal.

Why? I'm serious. Where in the description of the power does it say
that the power will allow the person with it to regrow lost body
parts?

I know in good old AD$D the spell Regeneration was quite clear on the
matter. But in SR that isn't the case. And I don't feel that just
because the power is named Regeneration that you can go by the
definition in the dictionary. SR has a spell called Sleep that does
nothing of the sort, instead causing stun damage to the target. The
Name does not equal the power in SR.

-DB-the-squaring-of-the-circle-GM
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