From:	MC23 <mc23@**********.COM>
Subject:	Re: Do you all jump to conclusions, or is it just for me? (long)
Date:	Tue, 12 May 1998 13:21:14 -0400

Once upon a time, David Thompson wrote;

>At 02:32 AM 5/12/98 -0400, MC23 wrote:
>
>> It would be like any character using a mundane weapon, and that can
>>never effect purely astral beings. And an assensing character couldn't
>>effect those same beings with flesh bullets any more than he could by
>>throwing his weapon focus at it.
>
> Not necessarily, because the whole craziness of ripping part of
>one's own
>body out to attack an astral entity _might_ be enough to do damage, given
>the willpower involved. I'm thinking of examples of mundanes attacking
>manifest spirits when it is willpower that matters. This is a somewhat
>similar situation, and a GM could allow it. Obviously most on this list
>would not allow it, and that is fine too. I'm not arguing that it is
>necessarily a valid idea, just that there is some merit.

Manifest spirits are dual natured. Since they now exist on the material
plane you cannot use that as reference for purely astral forms. That is
why your approach fails.


<snip>
>What the hell is a flame if not insulting the poster like this?

That was a spark that could still be extinguished. Once you have
given up hope of that it is a flame. Demosthenes Three's reply returned
the insults and that could be considered the start of a flame war. Maybe
that is a very biased opinion but If it didn't start a flame war, it not
really a flame to me, it can still be taken back at that point.

> Some discussed the aura of the chunk but most missed the fact that the
>ninja was astrally active in the first place. Also, the freshness of the
>separation from the body puts into question the conclusions of others on
>the list (IMO). Others discussed the idea, and insulted and attacked the
>poster at the same time. Why? Who gains from that. If you are having a
>bad day at work, take it out on a wall or deal with it with someone who
>knows you and presumably cares, don't attack people on the list you don't
>even know.

Don't tell me, I didn't make those omissions in my replies. Scold
the ones who did and were nasty about it.

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