From:	Erik Jameson <erikj@****.COM>
Subject:	Re: Well, here he is.
Date:	Tue, 12 May 1998 14:12:41 -0400

At 09:32 AM 5/12/98 -0400, you wrote:

>> Why not the twins Desire and Despair and maybe the rest of the
>>Endless<tm>? At least that's a good is a good source to pattern totems
>>based on concepts. I wouldn't do it but there you go.
>
>The Endless? Huh? It seems that you're describing something akin
>to the Passions, but...

I'm somewhat shocked that more people haven't heard of The Endless. Maybe
that's another old-timer thing, eh MC23?

It's essentially a reference DC Comics' "Sandman" series, which until The
Wake was my favorite comic; haven't actually read anything beyond that. It
was written/created by Neil Gaiman, a name that might be more familiar to
our British members, since he has done some work writing a bit of
television (can't remember the miniseries name though).

The Endless included Death, Destiny, Despair, Desire, Destruction(War), and
Dream. I probably missed a few in there. They are named The Endless
because they will be the last to leave the Universe; they were here before
anyone else, god or man, and will leave only once the last god or man has
left. They were combination god and concept; a very strange metaphysical
idea.

<male lust>
Death in particular was a terribly attractive goth babe I must say.
</male lust>

But they are probably closer to ED's passions in many ways as opposed to
the traditional SR totems.

BUT they could probably be made into something akin to the German Idols.

Death might have a bonus to Combat spells and a penalty to Health Spells.

Destiny...probably would have to roll vs. Willpower to change his course,
maybe a bonus to Manipulation spells.

Despair is a mad Idol...can't think of any bonuses or penalties other than
RP ones. Think of an insane Coyote shaman, no, really.

Desire would probably have a bonus to Illusion spells and a penalty to
Combat spells.

Destruction would have bonuses to both Combat and Damaging Manipulation
spells, but penalties to Detection and Illusion spells.

Dream would have bonuses to Illusion spells, maybe also Detection.
Penalties to Combat and Damaging Manipulation spells.

A few thoughts anyway.

Erik J.


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