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From: Erik Jameson <erikj@****.COM>
Subject: Re: Do you all jump to conclusions, or is it just for me? (long)
Date: Tue, 12 May 1998 17:00:18 -0400
At 12:03 PM 5/12/98 -0400, you wrote:

> Not necessarily, because the whole craziness of ripping part of
one's own
>body out to attack an astral entity _might_ be enough to do damage, given
>the willpower involved. I'm thinking of examples of mundanes attacking
>manifest spirits when it is willpower that matters. This is a somewhat
>similar situation, and a GM could allow it. Obviously most on this list
>would not allow it, and that is fine too. I'm not arguing that it is
>necessarily a valid idea, just that there is some merit.

The flesh-hurling is a ranged attack. Mundanes attacking a spirit in melee
is 100% different; the spirit is actually manifest on the mundane plane and
so has a physical presence which can be hurt.


>Look at the responses this post got:

Obviously much of that snipped list was a veiled reference to me.

It's clear what the intention of the original post was. Many of us that GM
SR found that intent disgusting; some of us may have actually had to deal
with a similar situation in the past. I know I have and it pissed me off
to no end. I have little patience for this sort of behavior. Perhaps I
should have refrained from stating it on the list, but I refuse to
apologize for the truth.

The intent behind the concept is as valid a discussion topic as the concept
itself. In order to fully understand an action, we have to understand the
motives that drove the action. Who drove the action.

Again, perhaps I shouldn't have stated my opinions publicly but I stand by
the truth and validity of what I said.


>Also, the freshness of the
>separation from the body puts into question the conclusions of others on
>the list (IMO).

No, it doesn't.

But I'm not going to argue the point any further. Despite your assertions,
I'm not having a bad day at work. I'm not even necessarily pissed off
about anything in particular.

But I'm not going to put up with this nonsense anymore. And so I am
removing myself from this conversation and unilaterally deleting these
topics before I read them. I'll also be kill-filling Demosthenes 3 to save
myself any further aggravation. I'll keep myself content with having
rational discussions with knowledgeable non-munchkinous individuals such as
MC23, Gurth, David Buehrer and the newly rechristened Tim Kerber.

Goodnight and good luck with this; I'm removing myself before things get
any nastier.

Erik J.

Fight the Future on June 19!


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